7+ Taskbar Tweaker

7+ Taskbar Tweaker
7+ Taskbar Tweaker allows you to configure various aspects of the Windows taskbar.
Most of the configuration options it provides can’t be tweaked using the taskbar properties or the registry.
The tweaker is designed for Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 10.

Download

exe 7tt_setup.exe (1.78 MB, changelog)
Latest version: v5.15.2
Note: The installer can be used to extract a portable version. Refer to the FAQ below for details.

Beta version
exe 7tt_setup_beta.exe (1.78 MB, changelog)
Latest beta version: v5.15.2.2
More info about beta versions.

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Windows 11 Support Status

  • 7+ Taskbar Tweaker doesn’t support the Windows 11 taskbar, and probably never will. See this blog post for more details.
  • Some of the tweaks are available in Windows 11 as Windhawk mods. See here for the list of mods, and vote for missing mods that you’d like to see implemented. Read more about Windhawk here.
  • 7+ Taskbar Tweaker works on Windows 11 version 23H2 and older with the old taskbar which can be restored with third party tools. See this blog post for more details.


Demo video

Here is a video that demonstrates some of the tweaks:

Source code

https://github.com/m417z/7-Taskbar-Tweaker

FAQ

Q: Which registry keys does 7+ Taskbar Tweaker modify? I don't need extra processes in my system.
A: The only registry keys the tweaker modifies are its own settings. There are no registry keys for the options it provides. The tweaker does that by injecting a DLL to explorer, hooking/subclassing/some other methods of the dark side.
As for extra processes, the tweaker is a native program, and is very lightweight. It shouldn’t slow down your system, and uses an extremely small amount of memory. Also, you can hide the tray icon if you want.

In case you want to remove the tweaker's settings from the registry, look for them here:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\7 Taskbar Tweaker
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run (7 Taskbar Tweaker value)

P.S. if you're a programmer, you might want to take a look at the 7+ Taskbar Tweaking Library.

Q: My antivirus complains about 7+ Taskbar Tweaker.
A: It's a false positive. I guarantee that the tweaker binaries (and any other files on this site, unless specifically noted) are 100% clean.
Also remember that the tweaker injects into explorer and modifies its memory, which is indeed suspicious.

Q: Can I Group/Combine/Label only some of the items on the taskbar?
A: Yes, use Taskbar Inspector.

Q: May I use 7+ Taskbar Tweaker in a commercial environment?
A: Yes, feel free to use it wherever you want.

Q: Where is the portable version?
A: When installing the tweaker, choose the Portable type of install, as shown on the image below.
The portable version will be extracted to the selected folder.

Selecting the portable installation type

Note: If the tweaker is already installed on your computer, the option won't be visible. You can launch the setup with the /portable command line switch to force a portable installation.

Q: I want to report a bug/suggest a feature! What is the best way to do it?
A: Post it on the UserEcho page.

Q: I want to translate 7+ Taskbar Tweaker to my language.
A: The archive below contains the files needed to be translated.
Please read readme.txt before proceeding.

zip 7tt_translate.zip (758.63 kB)

If you are brave enough to translate the help file, contact me for the required software and files.

Posted in Releases, Software by Michael (Ramen Software) on September 30th, 2009.
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  1. Abdo says:
    December 13, 2021 at 6:09 am  (Quote)

    Hi, Michael.

    Thank you for this great app!

    I would ask you to consider adding an option (a value data under Advanced Options) to map keyboard shortcuts to move the active window within its button group, like the TTLib_ButtonMoveInButtonGroup function in the tweaking library does.

    Reply
  2. Thomas says:
    December 16, 2021 at 4:19 pm  (Quote)

    As some of the users here may know there are lots of portable versions of non-portable (free) programs developed by the PortableApps platform/toolkit.

    See here: https://portableapps.com/

    One example is the PortableApps version of Firefox browser:

    https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable

    Such a PortaleApps installation always consists of two main parts: The wrapping, outer PortableApps Prgm and the inner core Prgm.

    The outer wrapping Prgm is name mostly named by the pattern XXXPortable.exe for the inner XXX.exe program.

    Now when I double click on the outer wrapping XXXPortable.exe pinned onn TaskBar it sets the environment and starts at the end the inner XXX.exe

    Unfortunately the inner XXX.exe is NOT grouped together with the related, outer pinned XXXPortable.exe but put aside as separate icon into TaskBar

    Is there a way to tell 7+ TaskBar Tweaker to group them together anyway? Maybe this feature can be implemented.
    I would appreciate a grouping since they belong closely together.

    Thank you
    Thomas

    Reply
    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      December 16, 2021 at 9:01 pm  (Quote)

      Is there a way to tell 7+ TaskBar Tweaker to group them together anyway?

      You can do it temporarily (e.g. with Taskbar Inspector or with the “Drag within/between groups using right mouse button” option), but there’s no option in the tweaker for them to group automatically every time.

      Check out the win7appid command line tool:
      http://code.google.com/p/win7appid/
      You can try using it to create a shortcut to the outer program with the AppId of the inner program, then pin it.

      Reply
      • Thomas says:
        December 20, 2021 at 1:56 pm  (Quote)

        Thank you for the suggestion.
        I downloaded and tried win7appid utility.
        At first I tried to find out the AppId of the outer FirefoxPortable.exe:

        But when I enter

        win7appid FirefoxPortable.exe
        I got an error “Error: Failed to load shortcut file”

        Can I ask with7appid only the appid of shortcuts?
        Well, so I created a shortcut and entered:

        win7appid FirefoxPortableShortcut.exe.lnk
        and got: “No current AppId”

        So how do I get the appid otherwise?

        Reply
        • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
          December 21, 2021 at 7:59 am  (Quote)

          Can I ask with7appid only the appid of shortcuts?

          Yes, executable files have no AppIds. Shortcuts can have AppIds, running processes can have AppIds, and each window has an AppId (possibly autogenerated).

          Well, so I created a shortcut and entered:

          win7appid FirefoxPortableShortcut.exe.lnk
          and got: “No current AppId”

          That makes sense, you created a new shortcut, and it has no assigned AppId. You can use win7appid to assign one.

          So how do I get the appid otherwise?

          You can see it in 7+ Taskbar Tweaker’s Taskbar Inspector:
          https://i.imgur.com/UtMWHCG.png

          Reply
  3. Thomas says:
    December 25, 2021 at 7:14 pm  (Quote)

    Maybe I am stupid but how do I get and assign an Appid?

    Assume I double clicked on Portable Firefox (which is pinned on TaskBar). Now “inner” Firefox is started and appears on TaskBar too.
    Now I open TaskBar Inspector.
    What next?
    Right click context menu of both do NOT show an AppId.

    If I mark the two entries and rightclick there is no context menu in Taskbar Inspector. I miss a context menu with label “group together”.

    Can you add this in next release?

    Help is appreciated

    Reply
    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      December 27, 2021 at 2:52 pm  (Quote)

      Firefox is started and appears on TaskBar too.
      Now I open TaskBar Inspector.
      What next?

      Look for an item with an arrow-like icon above the Firefox item (like in the screenshot I posted), that’s the AppId. For more information, please refer to the “Taskbar Inspector” section in the help file.

      Once you figure out the AppId of Firefox, you can create a shortcut for the launcher and change its AppId to be the same as Firefox’s with win7appid.

      I miss a context menu with label “group together”.
      Can you add this in next release?

      To group items together, you can select them and choose “Change Application ID” -> “random_group_[number]”. But note that this kind of grouping is not remembered, you’ll need to do it every time the programs are launched.

      Reply
  4. chukko says:
    January 2, 2022 at 3:58 pm  (Quote)

    Hi.

    I just discovered TT and it is really great (including TTLib which i am going to automate via AHK).

    The option to override hover behavior only offers following options: preview (default), list, tooltip and nothing.

    Unfortunately the default options works differently for grouped (not combined) and ungrouped items. It shows preview for ungrouped items, but shows list for grouped ones.

    Isnt it possible to force preview even for grouped items?

    Reply
  5. Michael says:
    January 6, 2022 at 12:17 am  (Quote)

    I love this little utility because of the bigger taskbar icons and the ability to drag and reorder thumbnails.

    There seems to be a major conflict with Actual Multiple Monitors (latest one, 8.14.6.1). If I’ve disconnected my second monitor and then log into Windows, it will freeze. Eventually 7TT (using beta 5.12.3.1) will tell me the library failed to load, but I have to restart the computer; force closing it doesn’t work.

    I’m wondering how exactly the two conflict and whether I can set something to avoid this. The solution for now it seems is just to make sure I have 7TT closed on days when I work at home (as I use the same two monitors when working and for personal use).

    Reply
  6. Win7Fan says:
    January 6, 2022 at 10:36 pm  (Quote)

    How to create portable version from source code?

    Hi

    Thanks for creating this cool app, it’s the only thing
    I’ve found that actually works for disabling topmost on
    the Windows 7 taskbar.

    I’m trying to build a portable version from source code using VS2019.

    VS creates inject.dll and “7 Taskbar Tweaker.exe” (aka .ex2) but it doesn’t seem to create the launcher.

    Running the exe directly seems to work, at least it gives the
    correct disable_topmost behavior in Windows 7 which is all
    that I care about. Nice!

    But, I haven’t been able to get it to use the ini file
    instead of the registry.

    I can see in the debugger that the command line:
    -ini filename does get recognized, but then isn’t used.

    So, some quick questions:

    1) Do I need the launcher? If so, how to make it?

    2) Without the launcher, is there a way to use the ini file
    instead of the registry?

    3) If no mouse/keyboard options are selected by the user,
    does tt still touch the mouse/keyboard processes?

    Thank you!

    Reply
    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      January 7, 2022 at 8:54 am  (Quote)

      Hi,

      VS creates inject.dll and “7 Taskbar Tweaker.exe” (aka .ex2) but it doesn’t seem to create the launcher.

      The code of the launcher is not on GitHub. It’s a tiny, simple executable which was written about 10 years ago and wasn’t updated since. Here’s its source code.

      The basic idea is that it launches the real tweaker (the .ex2 file) as following: "C:\7TT\bin\64\7+ Taskbar Tweaker.ex2" -launcher "C:\7TT\7+ Taskbar Tweaker.exe" -ini "C:\7TT\7+ Taskbar Tweaker.ini"

      The -launcher switch helps with operations such as setting the tweaker to run at startup and locating files in the installation folder. The -ini switch makes the tweaker read the configuration from the ini file, as opposed to the registry.

      1) Do I need the launcher? If so, how to make it?

      You don’t strictly need it, you can achieve the same with a batch file or by just running the tweaker with the -ini command line switch. I don’t know why it didn’t work for you.

      2) Without the launcher, is there a way to use the ini file instead of the registry?

      Yes. And if you want to make the tweaker permanently portable, you can modify the InitSettings function, changing it to something like:

      BOOL InitSettings(void)
{
    WCHAR szAlternativeIniPath[MAX_PATH];

    WCHAR szAlternativeIniPathRelative[] = L"portable.ini";

    WCHAR szLauncherDir[MAX_PATH];
    lstrcpy(szLauncherDir, szLauncherPath);
    *PathFindFileName(szLauncherDir) = L'\0';

    if(!PathCombine(szAlternativeIniPath, szLauncherDir, szAlternativeIniPathRelative) ||
        PSInit(PS_INI, szAlternativeIniPath) != ERROR_SUCCESS)
    {
        return FALSE;
    }

    lstrcpy(szIniFile, szAlternativeIniPath);
    return TRUE;
}

      3) If no mouse/keyboard options are selected by the user, does tt still touch the mouse/keyboard processes?

      You’re probably referring to the global mouse/keyboard hook that the tweaker uses. It is indeed only being set if the mouse/keyboard options are used.

      Reply
      • Win7Fan says:
        January 8, 2022 at 1:08 am  (Quote)

        Hi

        Thank you for your quick and detailed reply, it
        was very helpful.

        I was able to build the portable launcher and it works great!

        I also tried the no-launcher batch file method. It works
        too, but I think your launcher gives a much nicer result.

        Next I’ll try the permanently-portable code snippet you suggested.

        Thanks again!

        Reply
  7. Peter says:
    January 7, 2022 at 4:45 pm  (Quote)

    Hi,

    thanks for the nice tool.

    Due to Sophos blocking the auto updates I turned off the AutoUpdate months ago. However, I kept the Update Notifications active.

    Now I noticed Sophos keeps reporting on the recreation of a 7tt_setup.exe and 7tt_setup[1].exe in
    C:\Users.…\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache\IE
    and
    C:\Users.…\AppData\Local\Temp

    The files seem to keep reappearing and I don’t know why.
    This is very strange.

    Now I turned off the Update Notification as well.
    One thing I notice: The “Update” menu entry depends on that notification. Makes sense so far.
    However, does 7tt keep downloading the EXE in the background?
    If yes – I would recommend to change that behaviour.

    Thanks again for the tool!

    Reply
    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      January 7, 2022 at 4:55 pm  (Quote)

      Hi Peter,

      If the “Update automatically” option is turned off, the exe file is not downloaded until you click on the update button. When checking for updates, the tweaker accesses a link similar to the following:
      https://ramensoftware.com/downloads/7tt_setup.exe?version
      Perhaps this file which contains the update information is saved in a file named 7tt_setup.exe by the Windows download API. It makes little sense for Sophos to react on an innocent text file, but perhaps it doesn’t like the fact that it came from this website.

      You can try going to the folder where the file is located and check its size. If it’s around 1.8 MB, it’s the installer. If it’s a couple of bytes or KBs, it definitely isn’t.

      Reply
  8. Mikanas says:
    January 8, 2022 at 1:01 am  (Quote)

    Hi Michael,

    Am I correct to assume that all taskbar window operations are restricted within the area of the Taskbar region only ?

    I can move objects around within the taskbar but I am unable to move a TXT file from anywhere on the desktop inside the taskbar for it to be opened under Notepad as I was able to do in XP.

    This might not be to difficult to implement because there are functions within the Win32 Library that for example would enable you to control all keyboard and mouse events using the SendInput function.

    The use of this function for example has proven to be very effective in preventing a reentry of password as a result of a time out due to long inactivity while working on a server by remote connection. Using the SendInput function and the sleep function I can mimic mouse movements by constantly moving the mouse back and forth from a certain initial x-y position anywhere on the desktop which would give the impression that there is always activity going on.

    You could apply the ability to control keyboard and mouse events by allowing the positioning of any object on the desktop to any desirable location within the Taskbar area.

    The following is an excerpt of a general program I wrote which allows the regular movement of the mouse to be anywhere on the desktop without requiring any mouse inputs from the user.

    include <stdio.h>
include <stdlib.h>
include <string.h>
include "stdafx.h"
include <math.h>
include <time.h>
include <sys/timeb.h>
include <windows.h>

void main( int argc, char *argv[] )
{
    char Time_Str[25], X_Str[10], Y_Str[10] ;
    int Count, ix,iy, X_Start, Y_Start, X, Y ;

    long int Factor = 65535 ;
    long int TimeVal ;

    INPUT *buffer = new INPUT[3]; // allocate a buffer

    ix = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CXSCREEN); // GET CURRENT
    // SCREEN
    iy = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CYSCREEN); // RESOLUTION

    X = X_Start = 500 ; // DEFINE INITIAL MOUSE
    Y = Y_Start = 100 ; // COORDINATE

    TimeVal = 1000 ; // TIME DELAY IN MILLISECONDS

    Count = 1 ;

    while(1) {

        buffer->type = INPUT_MOUSE; // MOUSE MOVE TO
        buffer->mi.dx = X * Factor / ix; // NEW (X,Y) POSITION
        buffer->mi.dy = Y * Factor / iy;
        buffer->mi.mouseData = 0;
        buffer->mi.dwFlags = (MOUSEEVENTF_ABSOLUTE | MOUSEEVENTF_MOVE);
        buffer->mi.time = 0;
        buffer->mi.dwExtraInfo = 0;

        SendInput(1,buffer,sizeof(INPUT)); // SEND MOUSE DATA
        // FOR MOUSE MOVE
        // OPERATION ONLY

        SleepEx( TimeVal, FALSE ) ; // SLEEP FOR "TimeVal"
        // IN MILLISECONDS

        Y = Y + 100 ; // UPDATE TO NEW COORDINATES

        Count++ ;

        if( Count > 2 ) // GO BACK TO INITIAL MOUSE POSITION
        {
            X = X_Start ;
            Y = Y_Start ;
            Count = 1 ;
        }

    }

}
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    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      January 8, 2022 at 11:11 am  (Quote)

      Hi Mikanas,

      Am I correct to assume that all taskbar window operations are restricted within the area of the Taskbar region only ?

      I’m not sure what you mean by that. You can, for example, drag a shortcut from the desktop to the taskbar to pin it. There’s also the “Open with” option which allows to drop a file onto a program, e.g. a text file onto Notepad.

      Reply
      • Mikanas says:
        January 8, 2022 at 6:12 pm  (Quote)

        What I was hoping for is the exact same functionality as in XP where you simply drag and drop on to the taskbar a TXT file without any further action required by the user.

        Try doing the same in Windows 10 and you would need to go through a series of unnecessary steps for achieving the same results you would in XP.

        I have never been so deceived with newer versions of Windows beyond XP in terms of their new Taskbar that is so incredibly inefficient to work with when you have to perform a great deal amount file and communication related operations.

        Michael, your Taskbar program has made navigating in Windows 10 SO MUCH MORE SIMPLER and I would like to personally thank you for taking the time and effort to improve its overall functionality compared with the existing Microsoft version !

        However, it still does need more work to make it has good and potentially even much better than it used to be in XP.

        I am a full time 9 to 5 programmer so that means I do a LOT of work editing and processing files on a regular basis and anytime I have to increase the number of unnecessary mouse clicks and keyboard actions compared with what I used to in XP then I get pretty pissed off !!! $%#@&&!!!!

        In particular, you just have to compare the way you use to replace files with newer ones in XP and how many more steps are required in Windows 10 and you will clearly understand what I am saying.

        ” SIMPLICITY IS THE ULTIMATE ACCOMPLISHMENT ”

        Mikanas

        Reply
  9. george says:
    January 12, 2022 at 5:12 am  (Quote)

    for what it’s worth, it (5.12.3) is working fine on my windows 11, alongside open-shell menu

    Reply
  10. Jeff says:
    January 17, 2022 at 7:57 pm  (Quote)

    Is there a way to export the current settings to import after a windows rebuld?

    Reply
  11. Leo699 says:
    January 21, 2022 at 4:45 am  (Quote)

    Hello,
    Taskbar items>Right click>Standard window menu
    not working now.
    Windows 10 Version 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1055)
    how to fix this..
    thanks..

    Reply
  12. Leo699 says:
    January 23, 2022 at 6:21 am  (Quote)

    yes i am using StartAllBack.
    hope that you can solve this issue in your next release.
    thank you.

    Reply
  13. feynman says:
    January 24, 2022 at 8:42 pm  (Quote)

    Hi.
    First of all, Thanks a lot for this great program.

    I have a question for settings.

    If I’d like to terminate a particular running item which is listed on taskbar by middle(wheel)-click of mouse, it is possible to do so in the main GUI of 7tt.
    But, My experience is that it is not possible to terminate all combined items (NOT a single one) at a time just by one and only middle-click through the main GUI. Is it right?

    And then, what is the proper setting with this case?

    Reply
  14. Will Anderson says:
    February 5, 2022 at 3:16 pm  (Quote)

    This morning when I booted up my refurbished laptop running Windows 10 21H2, I got an “incompatibility warning”:

    “An unsupported build of Windows 10 was detected.”

    I don’t have a clue what to do. I’d be grateful for some guidance. Should I uninstall 7+ Taskbar Tweaker?

    Will in Seattle
    a.k.a. “Clueless”

    Reply
  15. Tobias says:
    February 7, 2022 at 4:23 pm  (Quote)

    Hi,
    does 7+TT offer to automatically hide a certain program from Taskbar? resp. put it into Systray instead?

    I am not talking about putting to Systray when minimizing but when it is running in foreground.

    If yes: How can I specify it for prgm foobar.exe?
    If not: Can this feature be added in the next release?
    Thank you
    Tobias

    Reply
  16. Sarah Gardner says:
    February 8, 2022 at 6:09 pm  (Quote)

    Not sure if this counts as a feature request or a bug report.
    I’m using 7++ on a laptop, Win11 + StartAllBack – vertical taskbar with no_width_limit set so I can have the taskbar 32px wide.

    My issue is when the monitor configuration changes, e.g. plugging in an HDMI cable or an eGPU, the width is lost and I have to manually resize the taskbar.

    Is there any way to fix this?

    Reply
    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      February 11, 2022 at 8:25 pm  (Quote)

      It was reported before, for example here. I couldn’t reproduce it with a virtual machine, and I haven’t had the chance to try it on a laptop with an external monitor.

      Reply
      • Earl S says:
        May 23, 2022 at 2:44 pm  (Quote)

        I’ll add a 3rd report for this issue. Win 10 with a vertical taskbar.

        I noticed the issue first with a 2 monitor setup. However now I am only using 1 monitor and I am still experiencing the issue.

        To maybe help narrow it down here are a couple facts on my setup:
        • The main monitor used has been the same with both the 1 and 2 monitor setup. It is a Samsung TV connected via HDMI.
        • I have my display scaled to 125%.
        • I am not switching/disconnecting displays, no screen saver, no power saver. The screen stays on and connected 100% of the time and still get this.

        Reply
        • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
          December 8, 2024 at 8:26 pm  (Quote)

          Hi Earl,

          It’s been a while, but somebody revived this topic today. I decided to take another look, and made some improvements. Please try version v5.15.2.2 beta and let me know if it solved the issue for you. You can get it here.

          Reply
          • Earl S says:
            December 9, 2024 at 3:38 pm  (Quote)

            Hey Michael,

            I’ve grabbed the beta version but I’m going to hold off on installing. It doesn’t happen with every game/program so I want to wait until I hit the issue again (and I can’t remember any specific programs).

            Once I identify one, I’ll install and get back to you with results.

            Reply
    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      December 8, 2024 at 8:25 pm  (Quote)

      Hi Sarah,

      It’s been a while, but somebody revived this topic today. I decided to take another look, and made some improvements. Please try version v5.15.2.2 beta and let me know if it solved the issue for you. You can get it here.

      Reply
  17. notworking says:
    February 11, 2022 at 6:32 am  (Quote)

    7+ Taskbar Tweaker suddenly not working after restart.. I got this error
    https://i.imgur.com/wl0Gv9m.jpg

    7+ Taskbar Tweaker: Could not load library (5)

    Library initilization failed, perhaps your Windows version is not supported.

    When I opened the taskbar tweaker, all the options are greyed out.
    https://i.imgur.com/AKOHPyZ.jpg

    OS: Windows 10 21H1(19043.1526)
    App ver: 5.12.3
    Latest installed update is only KB5010342, previous updates were from last month.

    Reply
    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      February 11, 2022 at 2:20 pm  (Quote)

      Hi,

      I assume that explorer crashes at the time the tweaker shows the error message?

      Can you try to capture a crash dump using ProcDump? Run procdump64.exe -mp -e explorer.exe and trigger the crash. The dump will be written to a file, the details will be printed in the ProcDump console window. Send me the file (you can email it to me). Hopefully it will be enough for me to get a basic idea about the nature of the crash.

      Also, if you have other customization tools (such as Classic Shell), it’s worth trying to try turning them off to see whether there’s a conflict.

      Reply
      • notworking says:
        February 11, 2022 at 11:21 pm  (Quote)

        Hi Michael, I ignored the problem because I was busy, then after 2-3 shutdowns(I don’t use Fast startup), it turns back to normal. I don’t know what happened.

        The explorer didn’t crash, I can open it fine at the time but maybe it restarted after crash because I didn’t pay attention at that time.
        Other than Taskbar Tweaker, I only use TransBar from Anders Kjersem.
        https://i.imgur.com/ll1AJaU.jpg

        If it happens again, I’ll try using the ProcDump. But I don’t know how to use it on Taskbar Tweaker as it seems I need to start the ProcDump before the program crashes, while in my case the program crashes on startup? Does Taskbar Tweaker have any option to turn on log by default so I don’t have to use ProcDump?

        Another thing that I noticed is my Numlock was turned off when the crash happened while it is usually turned on.

        Reply
        • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
          February 12, 2022 at 1:34 am  (Quote)

          it seems I need to start the ProcDump before the program crashes, while in my case the program crashes on startup?

          Yes, that’s tricky. You can maybe try to exit and run again the tweaker a couple of times after the system starts and see if the problem reproduces. If it is, you can run ProcDump and reproduce it.

          Does Taskbar Tweaker have any option to turn on log by default so I don’t have to use ProcDump?

          There’s no such option. I can create a debug build for you to try if nothing else works.

          Another thing that I noticed is my Numlock was turned off when the crash happened while it is usually turned on.

          That shouldn’t have any effect on the tweaker.

          Reply
  18. Jon Frankle says:
    February 11, 2022 at 8:10 pm  (Quote)

    This has been happening to me for about two weeks as well, on Windows 10. Tweaker warns me it appears to be an incompatible build, guesses “Insider” build, but it’s not.

    I miss the Tweaker. Look forward to progress.

    Reply
    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      February 11, 2022 at 8:24 pm  (Quote)

      Hi Jon,
      Are you also using the latest tweaker version?
      Are you also getting the exact same error message, “Could not load library (5)”?
      What is the version of your explorer.exe file? (located in C:\Windows, can be seen in file properties.)

      Reply
  19. Jon Frankle says:
    February 11, 2022 at 8:33 pm  (Quote)

    I’m definitely seeing “Could not load library”. Don’t remember about (5).
    I think I was up to date, then also tried latest Beta a couple times.
    Windows explorer version:
    10.0.22000.469, dated 2/8/2022 11:15am

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  20. Jon Frankle says:
    February 11, 2022 at 8:54 pm  (Quote)

    Color me stupid, or at least embarrassed!
    I had started an upgrade to Windows 11 in December, which never could finish. I did my utmost to stop that update, since “it” kept running me totally out of hard disk.
    Eventually discovered the true culprit was McAffee WebAdvisor spitting a stupid message into one log file a hundred times a second for months (grew to 430 GBytes), and after some work, uninstalled it. One consolation was finding the self-parodying video McAffee himself posted about this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd6dKjVp9l0
    Apparently after that, Windows 11 thwarted my attempts to stop it, and did get installed. I could swear my Tweaker troubles started at least a month later? — but will try the advice you point to. THANKS.

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    • Jon Frankle says:
      February 11, 2022 at 9:41 pm  (Quote)

      In retrospect, it was clearly the update to Windows 11 that sunk my Tweaker. It happened to come without my explicit request, weeks after I cleared the disk enough to make room for it.

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      • Raccoon says:
        February 16, 2022 at 1:23 pm  (Quote)

        To block updates, use Winaero Tweaker.

        Windows 11 is not currently forced by Microsoft. You must’ve clicked ‘yes’ somewhere. They’ve recently introduced fullscreen nags though, so I don’t blame ya.

        Anyway, I do hope you’re using Explorer Patcher on Windows 11, or have reverted back to Windows 10 to use 7+TT. 🙂

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  21. Jason Peterson says:
    February 21, 2022 at 4:20 am  (Quote)

    Can you disable dragging of taskbar buttons? I come from WinNT5 and have configured the taskbar in a similar style. Dragging is new to NT6. I often copy data from one window into another and switch them on the taskbar quickly. Clicking and dragging overlap. This sometimes causes buttons to get reordered or the Close action to be invoked on the strange new menu (drag up).

    Can the spacing of the system tray icons be changed? For some reason they are spread wider and consume more width than necessary.

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    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      February 25, 2022 at 4:18 pm  (Quote)

      Can you disable dragging of taskbar buttons?

      You can use the disable_items_drag advanced options. Refer to the help file for more details.

      Close action to be invoked on the strange new menu (drag up)

      You can disable this with the drag_towards_desktop advanced option.

      Can the spacing of the system tray icons be changed?

      See the tray_icons_padding advanced option.

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      • Jason Peterson says:
        February 25, 2022 at 4:38 pm  (Quote)

        Perfect. This solves all my problems with the modern taskbar. I forgot that Advanced Options existed without a hint of it in the main dialog.

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  22. Curt says:
    March 15, 2022 at 4:19 pm  (Quote)

    I see I can use the “/S” switch to do a silent install but how do I set the install directory?

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  23. Stan says:
    March 24, 2022 at 10:20 am  (Quote)

    Hi. Excellent soft! Could you add an option on double click on the taskbar – launch Explorer or launch other program (notepad or something)?

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  24. 4c3T says:
    March 26, 2022 at 8:56 pm  (Quote)

    Hi. Don’t know if this is a known issue, but on a multi-screen setup (3 monitors, side by side, 1080p), the feature “Hovering” and selected “Tooltip” stops working after a while and shows nothing.
    However, when “List” is selected instead it’s shown as a tooltip, but only on one of the monitors, strangely enough.

    Can’t say for sure under what circumstances, how, why and when this bug appears. I keep my computer on pretty much 24/7, and can’t quite remember if the problem goes away after a reboot, since it’s quite long between the reboots, and lately I’ve kept the setting for “List” and it works, but lately it’s been misbehaving. I noticed that the taskbar icon (Shown with text, small icon, no grouping – Old style) shows, when hovering the mouse over it, a preview thing, but no graphics, just black background, small box containing the title.
    When hovering on that the preview shows with minimized windows except for the selection.
    Also, running Windows 10 Enterprise edition, latest updates.

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  25. John G. says:
    March 28, 2022 at 1:47 pm  (Quote)

    Hi Michael, I have W11 v22000.556 and I followed the instructions provided at this page to get the old W10 taskbar, so I have installed Valinet’s Explorer Patcher v22000.556.42.39 and 7th Taskbar Tweaker v5.12.3.4 beta, however when I switch off the computer it appears a weird message at screen with more or less the next text “the instruction 0x00007FF894195EB4 reference at memory in 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, can’t be read”. The only thing that I have touched in 7th Taskbar Tweaker is “remove the extra gap space between elements (or items, traslated from spanish)”. Valinet’s Explorer Patcher also has this option to be enable, however it doesn’t work so I have give a try to your 7th Taskbar Tweaker and it works nicely, despite the message when turning off. Do you have any idea about how to remove this message? Thanks in advance and please go on with this good work! Jonh.

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    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      March 31, 2022 at 8:14 pm  (Quote)

      Hi John,
      This happens because Explorer Patcher hooks a function that the tweaker hooks as well – DoesWindowMatch, and so there’s a conflict and the tweaker causes a crash when it tries to unhook it. Unfortunately I’m not familiar with a straightforward fix for this.

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      • John G. says:
        April 1, 2022 at 7:25 am  (Quote)

        Thanks anyway, Michael! It’s a minor annoyance, so I will continue to use 7+tt Taskbar Tweaker. I hope that someday it will appear a possible fix! :]

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      • John G. says:
        April 28, 2022 at 2:25 am  (Quote)

        Hi again Michael,

        I think that I have found a partial fix to this problem that basically means to hide the unexpected popup, editing the Regedit file following the next strings of parameters:

        [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Windows]
        “ErrorMode”=dword:00000002

        Also a *.reg file can be edited with the next content and then combined (right click over file, to combine):

        Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
        [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Windows]
        “ErrorMode”=dword:00000002

        I hope that this partial fix could be useful for other people.
        Thanks again! :]

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  26. steffan says:
    April 10, 2022 at 4:15 am  (Quote)

    Hi John,
    I am using win11 with allstartback and 7+taskbar tweaker because I want to put my taskbar on the right side of the screen and minimize the width of the taskbar. It works but there is a tiny isuue, everytime I restart the computer I have to the adjust the width again (this problem happened once in win10 but somehow version update fix it).
    surface pro 6
    win 11 21H2 22000.593
    7+taskbar 5.12.3
    allstartback 3.3.3
    Thanks for the hardwork

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  27. DBH says:
    April 17, 2022 at 10:54 pm  (Quote)

    I have “Group by Application ID” and “Drag within/between…” selected.
    When I right-click to reorder within a group (within instances of a single program), I seem to break the group. Left-click-dragging doesn’t let me move ALL of instances of that program together anymore. Sometime it moves just one of them, sometimes it moves two of them, but not all of them.
    I could see breaking the instances-of-one-program-as-a-group if I separated those instances by putting an instance of ANOTHER program between them, but that’s not the case here.
    I’d like to right-click-drag to move things WITHIN a group, but left-click-drag to move THE WHOLE GROUP (as in all instances of a single program).
    Thanks in advance, in general I’m thrilled that this program is available!

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    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      April 18, 2022 at 8:45 am  (Quote)

      If you drag an item with the right mouse button outside of its group, it gets attached to another group or a new group is created (see the video here). You can drag it back to its group to undo that. Alternatively, you can use the “Thumbnails: Drag to reorder” option to reorder items via the thumbnails.

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      • DBH says:
        April 18, 2022 at 10:51 am  (Quote)

        Thank you! …but it doesn’t seem to be doing exactly that. If I drag it outside of the group (accidentally – when you go from one “page” of the panel to another, it shoots to the top/bottom of the entire panel, you know what I mean), it separates, yes.

        But when I drag it back, it does NOT unite the the entire group again. Sometimes it unites with one or several of the items in that group, but I can’t get them ALL to be a group again. Can you see/reproduce what I’m talking about?

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      • DBH says:
        April 18, 2022 at 11:01 am  (Quote)

        Oooh, the thumbnail reordering is beautiful!

        Now I have to get back to where we started.
        SoI have about 10 instances of Word open. They’re contiguous on the panel. 5 of them are locked in a group. The others seem to be “solo” units on the panel. Is there a way to make them one group again? Just putting them close too one another doesn’t seem to do it.

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      • DBH says:
        April 18, 2022 at 2:57 pm  (Quote)

        Actually, that’s not a complete fix, either. Because if I open a NEW instance of Word, it doesn’t open together with the other instances of Word – it opens at the very end of the panel.

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  28. DBH says:
    April 18, 2022 at 11:09 am  (Quote)

    Okay, I’ve figured it out – partly. If I have two instances of a program that are part of a group, and then I drag an instance BETWEEN them, then all three unite. So I did that until I had them ALL in one group, and then I turned off the “drag within/between” groups, I’ll do it now with the “Thumbnails: drag to reorder” option. So I’m good! But I imagine that’s not the way you want the “drag within/between” option to work.

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    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      April 19, 2022 at 6:47 am  (Quote)

      But I imagine that’s not the way you want the “drag within/between” option to work.

      That’s the was I intended for it to work. I agree that it might be confusing and that you might only want the “drag within groups” part, without the “drag between groups” part. But currently that a single, both or nothing option.

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  29. Manu Sharma says:
    April 30, 2022 at 8:53 am  (Quote)

    Hi. Great app. so useful. I had to look around for solutions when I just couldn’t handle having to always move around my entire group of edge windows while trying to organize my workspace. love the scrolling features btw.

    I have a question. wondering if there was a way to get this to happen-
    so I want my tabs ungrouped, but I have pinned edge to my taskbar. I don’t want its icon to pop out though. but I still want to freely be able to move my windows around. is this possible ? I tried the inspector and it didn’t seem to work.
    thanks for the great software btw.

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    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      April 30, 2022 at 8:55 am  (Quote)

      Hi Manu, thanks for the feedback.

      I don’t want its icon to pop out

      What do you mean by that?

      Reply
      • Manu says:
        April 30, 2022 at 4:53 pm  (Quote)

        Hi, thanks for replying.
        What i meant by that is, as I have edge pinned whenever I open a window of edge, its icon becomes the window. Same with every other pinned icon. The pinned icon becomes the window when it is opened until they are all closed. It is a very minor thing im asking but i was just wondering out loud if it is already solved in the app and if i missed it.
        Although if one has a lot of windows open, every reduced icon counts! Especially if one opens a lot of the pinned windows!
        Thanks again for this wonderful app, and for replying.
        Regards.

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        • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
          April 30, 2022 at 5:09 pm  (Quote)

          as I have edge pinned whenever I open a window of edge, its icon becomes the window

          And you want the pinned icon to stay? That can be achieved with the “Don’t group pinned items” option. If you want that only for Edge, you can do so via Taskbar Inspector like this.

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  30. mimo says:
    May 5, 2022 at 10:40 am  (Quote)

    Hi, Michael.

    Thank you for your great applications! They’ve helped me a lot.

    I would ask you to consider adding a feature to make the windows taskbar highlighting on active application buttons more visible.

    I alwasy have trouble finding the current active application on the task bar because the default highlighting scheme are too subtle.

    Thank you.

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  31. Caio de Oliveira Lemos says:
    May 7, 2022 at 5:25 am  (Quote)

    Hi Micahel!
    It would be awesome if there was a feature to pin certain apps to the right side of the taskbar.

    Example:
    Im always with spotify open, a chrome window with 1 video open (which I put on my second monitor) or a chrome window with my app preview open, but it’s “hard” finding them on a taskbar that has, like, 15 apps.
    But in all theses cases, I always have a huge space left on the right side of the taskbar. I’d love to be able to put some apps there.

    I starded having this idea when I found a mod to Everything that adds a toolbar exatly in this place: https://github.com/stnkl/EverythingToolbar

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  32. Naruto says:
    May 14, 2022 at 5:09 pm  (Quote)

    Can’t imagine living without this program. Which is a lot more than I can say about Windows 11 and its braindead developers. Thanks a lot for your generous contribution.

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  33. David Balažic says:
    May 18, 2022 at 9:33 am  (Quote)

    Hi!

    The FAQ says, 7TT uses no registry “hacks” except for own settings.

    There is a feature “Display seconds on the tray clock”. That effect can be achieved with plain Windows (without 7TT) with a registry setting (look for the registry value ShowSecondsInSystemClock).

    Is 7TT using that or an own implementation?

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    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      May 18, 2022 at 8:37 pm  (Quote)

      Hi David,

      The option to display seconds on the tray clock was introduced in 2013. At this time, the ShowSecondsInSystemClock registry option didn’t exist, and so the tweaker implemented it by its own. In 2016, the registry option was added. I found about it by studying the new implementation, and at that time Googling for “ShowSecondsInSystemClock” yielded no results. For Windows versions with the ShowSecondsInSystemClock registry option, the tweaker uses the same mechanism as the registry option does, but it doesn’t change the registry. You can also notice that you don’t need to restart explorer after applying the tweaker option, while you need to do so after you change the registry option.

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  34. Thomas says:
    May 24, 2022 at 8:25 am  (Quote)

    Have you considered allowing for modifying the multi monitor taskbar we got in Windows 10 (and Windows 11 thru startallback)?

    Things like hiding startbutton, disabling grouping, labels etc.

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    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      May 28, 2022 at 9:48 pm  (Quote)

      7+ Taskbar Tweaker supports secondary taskbars in Windows 10. Regarding Windows 11 with StartAllBack, I didn’t try it, but if StartAllBack brings back the Windows 10 taskbar in secondary monitors as well, it should be supported by the tweaker.

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  35. Claudia says:
    May 27, 2022 at 12:39 pm  (Quote)

    Problem:

    When I unpin an existing shortcut on 7+ Taskbar then a gap remains.

    How can I tell 7+ Taskbar Tweaker to AUTOMATICALLY (or manually of necessary) shift all icons/Taskbar shortcuts right of the new gap one slot to the left?
    …so that no shortcut gap remains?

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  36. Claudia says:
    May 29, 2022 at 4:48 pm  (Quote)

    What is not understandable?

    Simply have a look at the following snapshot as an example:

    https://snipboard.io/6LIMr4.jpg

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  37. Nick says:
    June 4, 2022 at 6:48 pm  (Quote)

    I was looking for a way to scroll the taskbar with the mouse wheel through its ‘pages’ on my vertical taskbar, when I found this tool. This tool does offer the “Cycle between taskbar buttons” which comes close to what I need and indeed it scrolls through the taskbar pages, but I don’t want the applications to be brought forward to the foreground while scrolling. Is there an option to disable that? So that the mousewheel only scrolls the taskbar just as if I scrolled it manually clicking on the scrollbar arrows?

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    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      June 4, 2022 at 6:54 pm  (Quote)

      7+ Taskbar Tweaker doesn’t have an option to do that, sorry. But I know of a great tool which might help you.

      I assume that currently you use Win+T, then the arrow keys, then Enter? And you’d like to be able to use the mouse wheel instead of the arrow keys?

      You can install X-Mouse Button Control, and configure it such that scrolling right sends the Win+T keystrokes, and scrolling left sends the left arrow keystroke. Somebody wrote a similar guide but for Chrome, it might help, check it out here.

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    • Nick says:
      June 4, 2022 at 6:59 pm  (Quote)

      Found it! In Advanced Settings turn on “multipage_wheel_scroll”. Voila!
      Thank you.

      Reply
  38. aubai says:
    June 16, 2022 at 4:02 am  (Quote)

    7+ Taskbar Tweaker wird es nicht mehr für Windows 11 geben, die Zeit mit
    7+ ist ein für alle mal vorbei. Jetzt heißt es nach vorne schauen.

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    • ScienceDiscoverer says:
      June 17, 2022 at 12:06 pm  (Quote)

      Windows 11 is step backwards, not forwards. Lets wait for Windows 12 and see if Microsoft realise this and make normal OS like Windows 7.

      Reply
  39. Chris McKitterick says:
    June 17, 2022 at 10:16 am  (Quote)

    I’ve been using 7TT to fix the issue where virtual desktops keeps rearranging the taskbar icons (using advanced option virtual_desktop_order_fix = 1). This seems to have stopped working in the past few days. The taskbar icons are rearranging if my laptop screen is locked – maybe from half an hour. (When locking for a few minutes I haven’t noticed the issue). Thoughts/suggestions?

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    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      June 17, 2022 at 5:19 pm  (Quote)

      I’ve checked it on the latest Windows 10 version and it seems to be working. I tested it with steps that can be seen on the short video here. If you try these steps, do you see that the position is preserved or reset as in the video?

      Reply
      • Chris McKitterick says:
        August 25, 2022 at 1:04 pm  (Quote)

        Hey, apologies for not responding! This issue fixed itself after the next windows update and I haven’t had it since.

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  40. Stamimail says:
    June 21, 2022 at 8:24 pm  (Quote)

    Hi,
    When there is a program that hangs, we can use:
    Advanced options -> Mouse Button Control
    8 – Terminate process

    cool.

    The problem is when I’m using Firefox with a lot of tabs and windows.
    I want to kill only one tab, or kill one window, not the whole Firefox program (all Firefox windows terminating).

    Is there a way to do that? Thanks in advance

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  41. Arnie says:
    June 22, 2022 at 4:00 pm  (Quote)

    Hello,

    Bitdefender started blocking “7+ taskbar”. This happened after the update. It also blocks the beta version.

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    • Michael (Ramen Software) says:
      June 24, 2022 at 3:07 pm  (Quote)

      Hi Arnie,
      It’s most likely a false positive detection. Bitdefender has been mistakenly detecting 7+ Taskbar Tweaker in the past, and after contacting them, they removed the incorrect detection. If the tweaker is still detected, please contact Bitdefender about it. Thanks.

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  42. Cody says:
    June 29, 2022 at 1:25 pm  (Quote)

    Thank you for making this amazing software, I would kindly ask you to consider adding an option where it remembers the preview thumbnails order for browsers, so I don’t need to drag to reorder each time I restart my PC.

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  43. Pete says:
    July 6, 2022 at 11:43 am  (Quote)

    Occasionally, I have to work with a screen that has a small horizontal resolution. When there are too many task buttons to display on one line, a vertical scroll control is presented on the right.

    Would it be possible to have an option to, instead, scroll horizontally (with < on the left and > on the right)?

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  44. Quinn says:
    July 30, 2022 at 2:48 pm  (Quote)

    I just installed kb5015684 on Win 10 21H2 to make it 22H2.
    7+TT seems to work with 22H2 without any problems.
    Can you please update 7+TT so the starting warning message not to show?
    Thank you.

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  45. Rescenic says:
    July 31, 2022 at 1:23 am  (Quote)

    Add Windows 10 22H2 compatibility, please. Disable warnings.

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  46. David says:
    August 24, 2022 at 1:46 pm  (Quote)

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for this great app! Wonderful, exquisite, well done! Love it.

    Reply
  47. Musa says:
    September 2, 2022 at 10:07 pm  (Quote)

    Bro we need 22H support. ty

    Reply
  48. Frank says:
    September 8, 2022 at 6:24 pm  (Quote)

    Is there a registry or group policy tweak that I can make to increase the size of the icons in Windows 10 taskbar without the need of installing your app?
    Your app is great, but that’s literally the only tweak I want to do.
    Thank you.

    Reply
  49. Darkijah says:
    September 15, 2022 at 5:55 am  (Quote)

    Thanks, fixed some insanity in Windows 7 Premium. Always combine but hide labels, are you kidding me? Well, the insanity is all over in this system.

    Only thing is, now that I have combine WITH LABELS as per XP. It does not seem to open more Explorer windows if I right click the Start button and push open windows explorer, but there might be a setting for that some where.

    Thanks for the app, at least fixing some of the many nonsense of MicroSucks. Windows 2000 Pro for the win in regards of Sanity! I miss it so much.

    Now I just need to find a fix for the stupid auto closing of the Explorer when you take out a media and make it work like windows 2000 pro… I don’t recall how XP worked, but I think it was sane as well in this department.

    Thanks again!
    – Darkijah

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  50. Othar08 says:
    October 16, 2022 at 12:18 am  (Quote)

    Hello! the taskbar that I miss the most is the WinXP one, because I could group icons on the left and windows on the right and not have to go through the entire bar to go to one or another window. Thanks and regards

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