Could you add the “Remember the order of taskbar buttons” option?
The “Don’t group” option is very useful. I often manually order Taskbar buttons to facilitate switching windows. And I also use Windows virtual desktops for different types of work.
When I switched virtual desktops, I find that the order I had set manually changed back to the original order by opening time.
So I thought it would be possible to add an option to remember the order?
The virtual_desktop_order_fix advanced option of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker can help with this. See this blog post, and refer to the tweaker’s help file for more details.
I’m not sure why you’re using the old link (rammichael.com), but it should still work. It works for me. The link will break after the next update though, I suggest downloading the tweaker from the official website.
As of why the link doesn’t work for you, I’m not sure, perhaps your browser or internet provider blocks it for some reason.
Hi Sean,
Windows 11 is not supported, and I’m not sure whether support will ever be added. The taskbar in Windows 11 was completely rewritten, see this blog post for details.
Thanks for this great tool. Is there a way to keep the current taskbar File Explorer items in the current order the next time I logon? Now, I have to reorder the items after each logon. I saw a solution saying to use virtual_desktop_order_fix but that doesn’t work for me.
No, there’s no way to do that. It’s tricky, since the next time you login, new windows are created as far as the taskbar is concerned, even if they look similar to the windows you had before you logged out. A tool can try to match properties such as window titles, but the titles can change or there can be several windows with the same title.
The virtual_desktop_order_fix advanced option does something different – it helps keep the order of taskbar buttons when you switch between virtual desktops.
Can your software fix the taskbar unhide issues when running maximized windows programs?
Basically, for some lucky people like myself, the taskbar will simply not unhide if there is any maximized programs running. For me, it’s specifically the primary monitor, the auto-hide unhide taskbar works fine in my other 2 monitors.
Running latest version of Windows 10 as of March 22 2022.
Hi Nick,
I have no solution for this unfortunately. If you’re using 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, you might want to make sure that the disable_topmost advanced option is not enabled. That’s my only guess of what, of all of my tools, can cause the problem.
I eventually figured out that hidden applications that take the full display screen (like the GeForce Experience’s FPS Overlay and the Windows Snipping Tool) make the auto hide taskbar stay behind all of the opened maximized windows, that way it does not appear when you put the cursor on it. It’s a bug / glitch.
When the auto-hide taskbar is hidden and you see that thin taskbar line over open maximized windows, you know that it is working correctly. When the thin line is gone, that means there is an issue happening that is putting the taskbar behind all opened maximized windows.
The solution to my case was to disable the FPS Overlay from NVIDIA GeForce Experience and, in the case of the Windows Snipping Tool, to reposition (refresh) the taskbar a couple times after using it, then it goes back to normal.
I hope more people can find this solution and that it helps them. 🙂
thank you for this wonderful program!! i’ll be sure to let my friends who are still on Windows 10 know about this! What quality of life improvements!! THANK YOU!
What do you mean by “Taskbar shortcuts”?
If you’re referring to 7+ Taskbar Tweaker’s settings, you can find them in the registry here: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\7 Taskbar Tweaker
Hi,
I have Windows 11.
I was able to restore the Windows 10 taskbar and installed the 7+ tweaker for no grouping icons, however I am not able to get rid of the labels.
There is no option anymore to do “Always combine, Hide labels” like before.
I searched all over the web with no solution.
Can you please add this as feature for the next version / update?
winget install Textify
Gefunden Textify [rammichael.Textify] Version 1.8.11
Diese Anwendung wird von ihrem Besitzer an Sie lizenziert.
Microsoft ist nicht verantwortlich und erteilt keine Lizenzen für Pakete von Drittanbietern.
Downloading https://ramensoftware.com/downloads/textify_setup.exe
Unerwarteter Fehler beim Ausführen des Befehls:
Download request status is not success.
0x80190193 : Nicht zul�ssig (403).
Thanks for the great tool! I use it to minimize the size of taskbar which I keep on the left side. I adjusted the format of the short date and time in Windows settings to 4/5/17 format for the date, and 9:40 AM format for the time. These are the shortest display settings for the date and time, which allows them to be displayed even when the task bar is narrow. Do you know of any way that I could remove the year entirely from the date, and remove the AM/PM entirely from the time so that I could minimize the taskbar even further? This would probably involve a registry change.
I noticed that the “taskbar-button-click” mod actually behaves slightly differently than the “Middle click: Close” feature in 7+ Taskbar Tweaker. If I had multiple windows up (especially noticeable when working with multiple VSCode windows), 7+ would only close that one window. Windhawk tries to close every VSCode window at once!
Was this intentional? Is it possible to change to one-window?
I’d love to help with a PR, if I could. But I’ve gone through the C++ code and can barely understand it. I’m a Python/Typescript developer.
Aha… New info… If I open 2 VSCode windows on my left screen, and 2 on my right screen, and then middle-click, Windhawk only closes the 2 on that screen, leaving the others still running.
I have a hunch of what might be happening… When the “Combine buttons” setting (standard Windows setting) is set to Always, and I right-click on the taskbar button, I see “Close all windows on this display”. But when the “Combine buttons” is set to Never, right-clicking each button shows “Close window”. Maybe that “CTaskListWnd::ProcessJumpViewCloseWindow” symbol being hooked is the former (regardless if that menu item is visible when I right-click), whereas 7+ Taskbar Tweaker hooked some other symbol that represented the latter.
It’s semi-intentional. I’m aware of this behavior, and I know that some users prefer it to close all windows while others prefer it to close only one. I implemented the option that was simpler which is to close all windows. I’ll look into adding an option to change it in the next version.
I’ve just updated the mod, now it’s possible to choose from the following options for closing multiple windows:
Close all windows
Close foreground window
Do nothing
Note that it was optimized for Windows 11, not all Windows 10 configurations are fully supported in this mod (like “Never group” which isn’t available in Windows 11).
I appreciate the time you put in to updating it. I really do. I wish I could say it fixed the issue, but the plugin still has the same behavior I described before… multiple windows of the same app on the same screen, taskbar set to never group windows, middle-click on one of them, windhawk closes all of them.
Can you make a command-line for moving a specific button in the taskbar ? Like : -l : list buttons, 5 2: move button 5 to position 2.
This would allow me to implement a (very) personal logic to taskbar sorting, and maintain it as windows are closed/added.
A “taskbar change detector” would be a great add to this (trigger a .exe/.cmd upon change).
I hope it’s not too much to ask, but seeing what TT & Numberer can do, this shouldn’t be that complicated/long to do for you.
Many thanks for making the great TT, a life-savior.
Hi,
It’s not that complicated, but it’s not a 5-minutes task, it requires some work. If you’d like to hire me to do it, please email me. My email can be found at the top of this page. You can also try using the 7+ Taskbar Tweaking Library to implement it yourself.
I just started Aquasnap to see something and now the sliding animation and snapping to edges is working.
Windhawk seems to make Aquasnap work on both monitors and ads the sliding animation because I don’t remember Aquasnap doing that on it’s own.
I don’t have the pro version of Aquasnap so I’m surprised that Windhawk and aquasnap work together on both monitors.
I’m not really sure but it seems to me that Windhawk enables the free version to work with both monitors and works with Aquasnap to enable sliding and snapping…
Perhaps the Slick Window Arrangement mod conflicts with Aquasnap. I suggest to disable Aquasnap, or if you’re using it for other features, just disable its window arrangement features.
It depends on what you really mean. If you want to use 7+ Taskbar Tweaker with Windows 11 while having the exact same behavior and features you had in Windows 10, you can use Windows 11 with Windows 10’s taskbar. Then the answer is $0.
On the other hand, if you’d like to use the new Windows 11 taskbar, then not all of the options of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker can be implemented without extra prior work. For example, for the decombine options – the new taskbar has no notion of decombined items, and has no notion of labels. So these have to be implemented first. All in all, it’s a huge amount of work, especially for somebody who doesn’t have access to the source code. It’s difficult for me to assess the amount of money for this kind of project, but a wild guess would be that it can be six figures or more. At this point, perhaps it’s easier to create a taskbar clone from scratch. It was done before, but it has its own challenges and drawbacks.
That’s also why I decided to take a different route and start by implementing the most requested features. Check out the Windhawk mods for the Windows 11 taskbar blog post, perhaps some of the options you’re looking for are already implemented for Windows 11.
Can you please add an option which would it make more clear which tab is active? (Windows 10.)
Contrast between the active tab and inactive tabs is extremely low; you can hardly see any difference. Microsoft screwed up there.
Currently, I have black tabs with white letters. Old style (wide) tabs. Not those way-too-small and information-less default buttons. I don’t use pinning or any grouping.
Possible change to the active tab:
1: A thick bright yellow border of the active tab. Preferably: border color and thickness configurable.
2: Invert colors of the active tab
3: Quadripple the blue line under the tab. Preferably: thickness configurable, and/or change the color of the line.
4: Display a special icon in or over the active tab.
5: Quadripple the contrast (only for the active tab. Not for any other objects. I’m not gonna use the default hideous Windows ‘High contrast’ options, which changes many objects.
6: Make the active tab wider (configurable).
7: Move the active tab automatically to a dedicated extra toolbar (you can add a toolbar via: right-click on the Toolbar, Toolbars, New Toolbar…).
8: Pressing a combo key to make active tab blinking (although that would not be as good as the other options).
I don’t want any other things to change simultaneously: I only want to change the active tab.
BTW, if you mouse-over the tabs, they get slightly brighter. That’s also doing next to nothing for the contrast.
Thank you !
Thank you for 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, it’s very usefull !
Ungroup apps.
Reserve empty space on taskbar for right click ! Very cool.
And display seconds on the tray dock 🙂
Could you add the “Remember the order of taskbar buttons” option?
The “Don’t group” option is very useful. I often manually order Taskbar buttons to facilitate switching windows. And I also use Windows virtual desktops for different types of work.
When I switched virtual desktops, I find that the order I had set manually changed back to the original order by opening time.
So I thought it would be possible to add an option to remember the order?
The virtual_desktop_order_fix advanced option of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker can help with this. See this blog post, and refer to the tweaker’s help file for more details.
oh, that’s good! Thank you very much for your support!
Hi,
The download doesn’t work from your website. I get a timeout from the server.
This is the URL I tried, from two different computers:
https://rammichael.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2021/11/7tt_setup.exe
It works from https://www.majorgeeks.com/ though.
Hi Jimi,
I’m not sure why you’re using the old link (rammichael.com), but it should still work. It works for me. The link will break after the next update though, I suggest downloading the tweaker from the official website.
As of why the link doesn’t work for you, I’m not sure, perhaps your browser or internet provider blocks it for some reason.
thank your for your work! it’s very useful to me
Hi,
I have recently installed Numberer onto windows 11 but whenever I run it I get an Error –
IDS_INJERROR_LOADDLL
Any suggetions?
Thanks!
Hi Sean,
Windows 11 is not supported, and I’m not sure whether support will ever be added. The taskbar in Windows 11 was completely rewritten, see this blog post for details.
Is it possible to add Arabic?
Add where? 🙂
7+ Taskbar Tweaker has an Arabic translation. Textify too.
Hello guys.
Please help.
On my Windows 11 programm is not work.
Aloha,
Thanks for this great tool. Is there a way to keep the current taskbar File Explorer items in the current order the next time I logon? Now, I have to reorder the items after each logon. I saw a solution saying to use virtual_desktop_order_fix but that doesn’t work for me.
Thanks
Hi,
No, there’s no way to do that. It’s tricky, since the next time you login, new windows are created as far as the taskbar is concerned, even if they look similar to the windows you had before you logged out. A tool can try to match properties such as window titles, but the titles can change or there can be several windows with the same title.
The virtual_desktop_order_fix advanced option does something different – it helps keep the order of taskbar buttons when you switch between virtual desktops.
Hi,
I appreciate your fast reply. No worries. At least I know the answer, which helps.
Have a good day,
Hi,
Can your software fix the taskbar unhide issues when running maximized windows programs?
Basically, for some lucky people like myself, the taskbar will simply not unhide if there is any maximized programs running. For me, it’s specifically the primary monitor, the auto-hide unhide taskbar works fine in my other 2 monitors.
Running latest version of Windows 10 as of March 22 2022.
Thank you
Hi Nick,
I have no solution for this unfortunately. If you’re using 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, you might want to make sure that the disable_topmost advanced option is not enabled. That’s my only guess of what, of all of my tools, can cause the problem.
Hey, Thanks for replying!
I eventually figured out that hidden applications that take the full display screen (like the GeForce Experience’s FPS Overlay and the Windows Snipping Tool) make the auto hide taskbar stay behind all of the opened maximized windows, that way it does not appear when you put the cursor on it. It’s a bug / glitch.
When the auto-hide taskbar is hidden and you see that thin taskbar line over open maximized windows, you know that it is working correctly. When the thin line is gone, that means there is an issue happening that is putting the taskbar behind all opened maximized windows.
The solution to my case was to disable the FPS Overlay from NVIDIA GeForce Experience and, in the case of the Windows Snipping Tool, to reposition (refresh) the taskbar a couple times after using it, then it goes back to normal.
I hope more people can find this solution and that it helps them. 🙂
Thank you Michael!
Windows 10 64 bit
thank you for this wonderful program!! i’ll be sure to let my friends who are still on Windows 10 know about this! What quality of life improvements!! THANK YOU!
How can I backup all Taskbar shortcuts and the order in which they appear into a backup file?
And restore them later?
What do you mean by “Taskbar shortcuts”?
If you’re referring to 7+ Taskbar Tweaker’s settings, you can find them in the registry here:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\7 Taskbar TweakerWell I did NOT mean 7+ Taskbar settings but all the icon/Thumbnails in Taskbar.
They can be seen as shortcuts to programs on partition.
How can I backup them?
I don’t know, sorry.
Hi,
I have Windows 11.
I was able to restore the Windows 10 taskbar and installed the 7+ tweaker for no grouping icons, however I am not able to get rid of the labels.
There is no option anymore to do “Always combine, Hide labels” like before.
I searched all over the web with no solution.
Can you please add this as feature for the next version / update?
Thanks
Eran
Hi Eran,
See my reply here:
https://ramensoftware.com/7-taskbar-tweaker-on-windows-11-with-windows-10s-taskbar/comment-page-2#comment-13448
winget install Textify
Gefunden Textify [rammichael.Textify] Version 1.8.11
Diese Anwendung wird von ihrem Besitzer an Sie lizenziert.
Microsoft ist nicht verantwortlich und erteilt keine Lizenzen für Pakete von Drittanbietern.
Downloading https://ramensoftware.com/downloads/textify_setup.exe
Unerwarteter Fehler beim Ausführen des Befehls:
Download request status is not success.
0x80190193 : Nicht zul�ssig (403).
I tried it and it worked for me:
https://i.imgur.com/eKkAIiN.png
Maybe there was a temporary error on the website. Did you try installing again? Did you try downloading it manually?
Thanks for the great tool! I use it to minimize the size of taskbar which I keep on the left side. I adjusted the format of the short date and time in Windows settings to 4/5/17 format for the date, and 9:40 AM format for the time. These are the shortest display settings for the date and time, which allows them to be displayed even when the task bar is narrow. Do you know of any way that I could remove the year entirely from the date, and remove the AM/PM entirely from the time so that I could minimize the taskbar even further? This would probably involve a registry change.
Please see the answer here for several options:
https://tweaker.userecho.com/topics/32-custom-date-format
I am not sure I am the right person, but if you need anyone to contribute to start the project on vanilla win11 contact me via email, ty.
I assume that you’re referring to 7+ Taskbar Tweaker. Please see the following blog post about Windhawk mods for Windows 11 as an alternative for 7+ Taskbar Tweaker tweaks:
https://ramensoftware.com/windhawk-mods-for-the-windows-11-taskbar
I noticed that the “taskbar-button-click” mod actually behaves slightly differently than the “Middle click: Close” feature in 7+ Taskbar Tweaker. If I had multiple windows up (especially noticeable when working with multiple VSCode windows), 7+ would only close that one window. Windhawk tries to close every VSCode window at once!
Was this intentional? Is it possible to change to one-window?
I’d love to help with a PR, if I could. But I’ve gone through the C++ code and can barely understand it. I’m a Python/Typescript developer.
Aha… New info… If I open 2 VSCode windows on my left screen, and 2 on my right screen, and then middle-click, Windhawk only closes the 2 on that screen, leaving the others still running.
I have a hunch of what might be happening… When the “Combine buttons” setting (standard Windows setting) is set to Always, and I right-click on the taskbar button, I see “Close all windows on this display”. But when the “Combine buttons” is set to Never, right-clicking each button shows “Close window”. Maybe that “CTaskListWnd::ProcessJumpViewCloseWindow” symbol being hooked is the former (regardless if that menu item is visible when I right-click), whereas 7+ Taskbar Tweaker hooked some other symbol that represented the latter.
It’s semi-intentional. I’m aware of this behavior, and I know that some users prefer it to close all windows while others prefer it to close only one. I implemented the option that was simpler which is to close all windows. I’ll look into adding an option to change it in the next version.
I’ve just updated the mod, now it’s possible to choose from the following options for closing multiple windows:
Note that it was optimized for Windows 11, not all Windows 10 configurations are fully supported in this mod (like “Never group” which isn’t available in Windows 11).
I appreciate the time you put in to updating it. I really do. I wish I could say it fixed the issue, but the plugin still has the same behavior I described before… multiple windows of the same app on the same screen, taskbar set to never group windows, middle-click on one of them, windhawk closes all of them.
Did you look at the mod’s settings?
https://i.imgur.com/1H8QLMP.png
Yes I did see the new mod settings. Here is a full analysis of all possible combinations of Windhawk settings and Windows settings, showing which scenarios are still not behaving correctly. I hope this helps:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yNuo_vri_DmaLw7bICWYs9TQh3PaGEbCNZSs4XmoLKI/edit?usp=sharing
Can you make a command-line for moving a specific button in the taskbar ? Like : -l : list buttons, 5 2: move button 5 to position 2.
This would allow me to implement a (very) personal logic to taskbar sorting, and maintain it as windows are closed/added.
A “taskbar change detector” would be a great add to this (trigger a .exe/.cmd upon change).
I hope it’s not too much to ask, but seeing what TT & Numberer can do, this shouldn’t be that complicated/long to do for you.
Many thanks for making the great TT, a life-savior.
Hi,
It’s not that complicated, but it’s not a 5-minutes task, it requires some work. If you’d like to hire me to do it, please email me. My email can be found at the top of this page. You can also try using the 7+ Taskbar Tweaking Library to implement it yourself.
Thank you for the answer. I wasn’t aware of the TTLib, which actually does the job (ButtonMoveInButtonGroup & ButtonGroupMove and ). Great tool !
Is there a way to make the w10_large_icons advanced setting also apply to the start menu button? Or a separate setting to make the button any% larger?
I really like this setting making the icons sharp but the small windows flag is really noticeable.
The last version update on 5.13 says, that the installation requires 64bit operating system. But I have Windows 7 PRO X64bit :-/ . Where is the issue?
There was an issue with the server, it should be fixed now. Thanks for reporting.
THUMBNAILS: DRAG TO REORDER
I used Taskbar Tweaker primarily for the following feature:
Thumbnails (Drag to Reorder)
Will this be implemented in Windhawk (as a Mod) ?
I published the Taskbar Thumbnail Reorder mod a couple of days ago 🙂
https://ramensoftware.com/windhawk-mod-taskbar-thumbnail-reorder
I was enjoying Slick Window Arrangement but now all of a sudden it no longer has the sliding animation or the quick snapping effects.
It still works with the window key and different sizing of window with arrow key though.
I’ve tried uninstalling and reinstalling but it didn’t work
I just started Aquasnap to see something and now the sliding animation and snapping to edges is working.
Windhawk seems to make Aquasnap work on both monitors and ads the sliding animation because I don’t remember Aquasnap doing that on it’s own.
I don’t have the pro version of Aquasnap so I’m surprised that Windhawk and aquasnap work together on both monitors.
I’m not really sure but it seems to me that Windhawk enables the free version to work with both monitors and works with Aquasnap to enable sliding and snapping…
Ok problem solved I think.
Perhaps the Slick Window Arrangement mod conflicts with Aquasnap. I suggest to disable Aquasnap, or if you’re using it for other features, just disable its window arrangement features.
I know you said you probably wont do an update for windows 11… just curious.. how much money do you think it will take to do it?
It depends on what you really mean. If you want to use 7+ Taskbar Tweaker with Windows 11 while having the exact same behavior and features you had in Windows 10, you can use Windows 11 with Windows 10’s taskbar. Then the answer is $0.
On the other hand, if you’d like to use the new Windows 11 taskbar, then not all of the options of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker can be implemented without extra prior work. For example, for the decombine options – the new taskbar has no notion of decombined items, and has no notion of labels. So these have to be implemented first. All in all, it’s a huge amount of work, especially for somebody who doesn’t have access to the source code. It’s difficult for me to assess the amount of money for this kind of project, but a wild guess would be that it can be six figures or more. At this point, perhaps it’s easier to create a taskbar clone from scratch. It was done before, but it has its own challenges and drawbacks.
That’s also why I decided to take a different route and start by implementing the most requested features. Check out the Windhawk mods for the Windows 11 taskbar blog post, perhaps some of the options you’re looking for are already implemented for Windows 11.
Can you please add an option which would it make more clear which tab is active? (Windows 10.)
Contrast between the active tab and inactive tabs is extremely low; you can hardly see any difference. Microsoft screwed up there.
Currently, I have black tabs with white letters. Old style (wide) tabs. Not those way-too-small and information-less default buttons. I don’t use pinning or any grouping.
Possible change to the active tab:
1: A thick bright yellow border of the active tab. Preferably: border color and thickness configurable.
2: Invert colors of the active tab
3: Quadripple the blue line under the tab. Preferably: thickness configurable, and/or change the color of the line.
4: Display a special icon in or over the active tab.
5: Quadripple the contrast (only for the active tab. Not for any other objects. I’m not gonna use the default hideous Windows ‘High contrast’ options, which changes many objects.
6: Make the active tab wider (configurable).
7: Move the active tab automatically to a dedicated extra toolbar (you can add a toolbar via: right-click on the Toolbar, Toolbars, New Toolbar…).
8: Pressing a combo key to make active tab blinking (although that would not be as good as the other options).
I don’t want any other things to change simultaneously: I only want to change the active tab.
BTW, if you mouse-over the tabs, they get slightly brighter. That’s also doing next to nothing for the contrast.