Could you add the “Remember the order of taskbar buttons” option?
The “Don’t group” option is very useful. I often manually order Taskbar buttons to facilitate switching windows. And I also use Windows virtual desktops for different types of work.
When I switched virtual desktops, I find that the order I had set manually changed back to the original order by opening time.
So I thought it would be possible to add an option to remember the order?
The virtual_desktop_order_fix advanced option of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker can help with this. See this blog post, and refer to the tweaker’s help file for more details.
I’m not sure why you’re using the old link (rammichael.com), but it should still work. It works for me. The link will break after the next update though, I suggest downloading the tweaker from the official website.
As of why the link doesn’t work for you, I’m not sure, perhaps your browser or internet provider blocks it for some reason.
Hi Sean,
Windows 11 is not supported, and I’m not sure whether support will ever be added. The taskbar in Windows 11 was completely rewritten, see this blog post for details.
Thanks for this great tool. Is there a way to keep the current taskbar File Explorer items in the current order the next time I logon? Now, I have to reorder the items after each logon. I saw a solution saying to use virtual_desktop_order_fix but that doesn’t work for me.
No, there’s no way to do that. It’s tricky, since the next time you login, new windows are created as far as the taskbar is concerned, even if they look similar to the windows you had before you logged out. A tool can try to match properties such as window titles, but the titles can change or there can be several windows with the same title.
The virtual_desktop_order_fix advanced option does something different – it helps keep the order of taskbar buttons when you switch between virtual desktops.
Can your software fix the taskbar unhide issues when running maximized windows programs?
Basically, for some lucky people like myself, the taskbar will simply not unhide if there is any maximized programs running. For me, it’s specifically the primary monitor, the auto-hide unhide taskbar works fine in my other 2 monitors.
Running latest version of Windows 10 as of March 22 2022.
Hi Nick,
I have no solution for this unfortunately. If you’re using 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, you might want to make sure that the disable_topmost advanced option is not enabled. That’s my only guess of what, of all of my tools, can cause the problem.
I eventually figured out that hidden applications that take the full display screen (like the GeForce Experience’s FPS Overlay and the Windows Snipping Tool) make the auto hide taskbar stay behind all of the opened maximized windows, that way it does not appear when you put the cursor on it. It’s a bug / glitch.
When the auto-hide taskbar is hidden and you see that thin taskbar line over open maximized windows, you know that it is working correctly. When the thin line is gone, that means there is an issue happening that is putting the taskbar behind all opened maximized windows.
The solution to my case was to disable the FPS Overlay from NVIDIA GeForce Experience and, in the case of the Windows Snipping Tool, to reposition (refresh) the taskbar a couple times after using it, then it goes back to normal.
I hope more people can find this solution and that it helps them. 🙂
thank you for this wonderful program!! i’ll be sure to let my friends who are still on Windows 10 know about this! What quality of life improvements!! THANK YOU!
What do you mean by “Taskbar shortcuts”?
If you’re referring to 7+ Taskbar Tweaker’s settings, you can find them in the registry here: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\7 Taskbar Tweaker
Hi,
I have Windows 11.
I was able to restore the Windows 10 taskbar and installed the 7+ tweaker for no grouping icons, however I am not able to get rid of the labels.
There is no option anymore to do “Always combine, Hide labels” like before.
I searched all over the web with no solution.
Can you please add this as feature for the next version / update?
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Thanks for the great tool! I use it to minimize the size of taskbar which I keep on the left side. I adjusted the format of the short date and time in Windows settings to 4/5/17 format for the date, and 9:40 AM format for the time. These are the shortest display settings for the date and time, which allows them to be displayed even when the task bar is narrow. Do you know of any way that I could remove the year entirely from the date, and remove the AM/PM entirely from the time so that I could minimize the taskbar even further? This would probably involve a registry change.
I noticed that the “taskbar-button-click” mod actually behaves slightly differently than the “Middle click: Close” feature in 7+ Taskbar Tweaker. If I had multiple windows up (especially noticeable when working with multiple VSCode windows), 7+ would only close that one window. Windhawk tries to close every VSCode window at once!
Was this intentional? Is it possible to change to one-window?
I’d love to help with a PR, if I could. But I’ve gone through the C++ code and can barely understand it. I’m a Python/Typescript developer.
Aha… New info… If I open 2 VSCode windows on my left screen, and 2 on my right screen, and then middle-click, Windhawk only closes the 2 on that screen, leaving the others still running.
I have a hunch of what might be happening… When the “Combine buttons” setting (standard Windows setting) is set to Always, and I right-click on the taskbar button, I see “Close all windows on this display”. But when the “Combine buttons” is set to Never, right-clicking each button shows “Close window”. Maybe that “CTaskListWnd::ProcessJumpViewCloseWindow” symbol being hooked is the former (regardless if that menu item is visible when I right-click), whereas 7+ Taskbar Tweaker hooked some other symbol that represented the latter.
It’s semi-intentional. I’m aware of this behavior, and I know that some users prefer it to close all windows while others prefer it to close only one. I implemented the option that was simpler which is to close all windows. I’ll look into adding an option to change it in the next version.
I’ve just updated the mod, now it’s possible to choose from the following options for closing multiple windows:
Close all windows
Close foreground window
Do nothing
Note that it was optimized for Windows 11, not all Windows 10 configurations are fully supported in this mod (like “Never group” which isn’t available in Windows 11).
I appreciate the time you put in to updating it. I really do. I wish I could say it fixed the issue, but the plugin still has the same behavior I described before… multiple windows of the same app on the same screen, taskbar set to never group windows, middle-click on one of them, windhawk closes all of them.
It’s been a while, but I finally found some time to get back to the mod. Thank you for the analysis and the detailed spreadsheet. I’ve just released a new version, 1.0.2, please try it and let me know if anything is still missing or not working as expected.
Can you make a command-line for moving a specific button in the taskbar ? Like : -l : list buttons, 5 2: move button 5 to position 2.
This would allow me to implement a (very) personal logic to taskbar sorting, and maintain it as windows are closed/added.
A “taskbar change detector” would be a great add to this (trigger a .exe/.cmd upon change).
I hope it’s not too much to ask, but seeing what TT & Numberer can do, this shouldn’t be that complicated/long to do for you.
Many thanks for making the great TT, a life-savior.
Hi,
It’s not that complicated, but it’s not a 5-minutes task, it requires some work. If you’d like to hire me to do it, please email me. My email can be found at the top of this page. You can also try using the 7+ Taskbar Tweaking Library to implement it yourself.
I just started Aquasnap to see something and now the sliding animation and snapping to edges is working.
Windhawk seems to make Aquasnap work on both monitors and ads the sliding animation because I don’t remember Aquasnap doing that on it’s own.
I don’t have the pro version of Aquasnap so I’m surprised that Windhawk and aquasnap work together on both monitors.
I’m not really sure but it seems to me that Windhawk enables the free version to work with both monitors and works with Aquasnap to enable sliding and snapping…
Perhaps the Slick Window Arrangement mod conflicts with Aquasnap. I suggest to disable Aquasnap, or if you’re using it for other features, just disable its window arrangement features.
It depends on what you really mean. If you want to use 7+ Taskbar Tweaker with Windows 11 while having the exact same behavior and features you had in Windows 10, you can use Windows 11 with Windows 10’s taskbar. Then the answer is $0.
On the other hand, if you’d like to use the new Windows 11 taskbar, then not all of the options of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker can be implemented without extra prior work. For example, for the decombine options – the new taskbar has no notion of decombined items, and has no notion of labels. So these have to be implemented first. All in all, it’s a huge amount of work, especially for somebody who doesn’t have access to the source code. It’s difficult for me to assess the amount of money for this kind of project, but a wild guess would be that it can be six figures or more. At this point, perhaps it’s easier to create a taskbar clone from scratch. It was done before, but it has its own challenges and drawbacks.
That’s also why I decided to take a different route and start by implementing the most requested features. Check out the Windhawk mods for the Windows 11 taskbar blog post, perhaps some of the options you’re looking for are already implemented for Windows 11.
Can you please add an option which would it make more clear which tab is active? (Windows 10.)
Contrast between the active tab and inactive tabs is extremely low; you can hardly see any difference. Microsoft screwed up there.
Currently, I have black tabs with white letters. Old style (wide) tabs. Not those way-too-small and information-less default buttons. I don’t use pinning or any grouping.
Possible change to the active tab:
1: A thick bright yellow border of the active tab. Preferably: border color and thickness configurable.
2: Invert colors of the active tab
3: Quadripple the blue line under the tab. Preferably: thickness configurable, and/or change the color of the line.
4: Display a special icon in or over the active tab.
5: Quadripple the contrast (only for the active tab. Not for any other objects. I’m not gonna use the default hideous Windows ‘High contrast’ options, which changes many objects.
6: Make the active tab wider (configurable).
7: Move the active tab automatically to a dedicated extra toolbar (you can add a toolbar via: right-click on the Toolbar, Toolbars, New Toolbar…).
8: Pressing a combo key to make active tab blinking (although that would not be as good as the other options).
I don’t want any other things to change simultaneously: I only want to change the active tab.
BTW, if you mouse-over the tabs, they get slightly brighter. That’s also doing next to nothing for the contrast.
I’ve been using TT for some months on a 3-monitor Windows 10 system, and today the taskbar on the primary monitor is underneath apps (not on top as it should be) and therefore will also not unhide with mouseover at the edge. Any tweak or fix for this?
Never mind. Weirdly, this solution works: On the affected screen put Chrome in full screen mode with F11, then back out of full screen mode with F11 again. Voila!, now the taskbar will be back on top.
The “Taskbar Labels for Windows 11” mod does not seem to function on newer builds – 25231.1000 for example. ExplorerPatcher doesn’t work either – I can’t launch the Start Menu anymore, but the labels still work.
Microsoft needs to get their heads of the same and just implement this natively. I would be deploying Windows 11 everywhere if not for this lame restriction…
Hi,
I just updated to win 10 22H2 (OS build 19045.2251). At startup I get a 7+ Taskbar popup saying:
“An unsupported build of Windows 10 was detected, probably an insider build. Proceeding will lead to unexpected results: the tweaker might fail to load, Windows Explorer can crash or hang. Proceed anyway?
If the tweaker fails to work, try the latest beta version.”
I am not running an insider build.
Additionally, I proceeded and at some point later the taskbar became unreachable (I could not left/right click on it and had to restart). But I cant know if it was a coincidence. Anyways, the warning message does not make sense since it is not an insider build…
Hi, after updating windows 10 (now: 22H2 Build 19045.2364) 7+ Taskbar Tweaker doesn’t work any more. Errormessage: Library initialization failed, perhaps your Windows version is not supported. But it is still Windows 10 not Windows 11. Is there a solution? Thanks a lot!
7+ Taskbar Tweaker provides limited customization to the taskbar clock. If you’re looking for more customization options, you might want to try out the Taskbar Clock Customization Windhawk mod.
The “Disable grouping on the taskbar” looks like it is a life saver (bit dramatic!) for me.
Using the “Taskbar Labels for Windows 11” as well – pictures on their own don’t work for me and are necessary of course with disable grouping.
I have been using the quick launch bar in all version since …
and really miss it. This seems to give an implementation that reproduces it – wonderful.
Looked for a “contribution facility” but couldn’t find one.
“contribution facility” – contribute to costs – I am going through the open source software I rely on and making a small payment. Now I am retired I have the time.
Q? Might it be easyish to put items of the same programe next to each other on the task bar (so they are grouped together a bit). But not next to any originally pinned to the task bar (or else the pinned ones tend to move!).
Hi, using 5.14.1 and tried 5.14.1 beta on Windows 10 22H2 build 19045.2728
I’ve had to reinstall win 10 onto a new nvme ssd and I’m finding that I cannot get the min width when pinned to the right hand side as I used to. This has been a recurring problem for me over the years, but seemed to be well fixed. I tried some earlier versions, but no luck.
Any ideas (again…) no error message, just wont reduce the width (or height if horizontal) Perhaps some hidden icon is stopping it, but I removed everything I could see.
Oh man, I forgot all about the advanced no width option, it’s been so long since I had to set this up. All fine now, thanks. 🙂
p.s. sorry it’s been a few days, the message was in spam. Almost everything gets sent to spam nowadays :sigh
Hi,
I’d like to switch between showing or hiding inactive symbols in taskbar tray.
This corresponds to changing the value “EnableAutoTray” in the following registry key: “Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer”.
However, it needs Explorer to be restarted to come into effect after applying a new value. Do you know any way to force such update without killing/starting explorer? Is there anything, 7tt could do via its DLL injection hooks?
Best regards
Jeff
Hi Jeff,
I haven’t explored this option and I don’t have a quick answer for your question. 7+ Taskbar Tweaker doesn’t have related functionality that can help. A solution can be to implement a Windhawk mod, but that requires some work for research and implementation.
Okay, thanks. I thought, maybe there’s something known already.
It’s not sooo important anymore. I have a temporary solution using a login script. That’s hopefully suffiicient. Thanks!
I was wondering, could you add an option to AUTOMATICALLY SORT TASKBAR ITEMS (ICONS) BY MRU(MOST RECENTLY USED)?
I don’t have the time to meticulously arrange taskbar items by context, and MS’s default implementation of grouping items of the same application together is a prime example of how predicting the users’ abstraction models is bound to fail; everyone has a different abstraction they’re working with in the head; for instance, I’d not want my book-im-working-on.docs to be grouped with family-party-invitation-list.docs, even though they’re both .docs… And I hate to have to use Alt-Tab for the MRU sorting; the previews are just too small, and you have to switch to unwanted/unintended windows just to get a bigger preview of them, which adds a record in the MRU sorting, ruining the whole point of MRU. Task View has bigger previews, but still not big enough. The good thing about the Windows taskbar is that upon hovering on the thumbnails, you get a full screen preview! Which is so cool! I tried Alt Tab Terminator, and removed the taskbar entirely with Buttery Taskbar, but ended up missing the Start button and the peek-desktop-thingy on the far end of the taskbar; not to mention, Alt-Tab, Win-Tab, Alt-Tab-Terminator, are all one gesture/click/shortcut away; the taskbar is not; the taskbar is always there… So it seems, the best would be if you were to add MRU into the taskbar… Please please, pretty please… I use Tab Slider (chromium extension) in Vivaldi, which automatically sorts tabs in MRU; and Tabs Studio in Visual Studio, which does the same; trust me, MRU is life-changing!
Hi,
Nice idea, I might try implementing it some day. Right now, I’m unfortunately busy with other things, but I’ll keep your suggestion in mind. You also might want to try using virtual desktops, they can help keep your workspace more arranged.
Also, in 7tt, could there be an option to add and run any custom exe/shortcut(.lnk) on the Middle-Click and Double-Click-On-The-Empty-Space-On-The-Taskbar events?
Hey there, Thanks for this great software, I am in love with this and I can’t work without this on my windows 11.
I installed latest versions on 7+ but all the options are greyed out. Can you help me install this on my windows 11? I saw the guides but nothing is good.
I just wanted to use don’t combine option of Icon. Please let me know the ways.
Hi Muz. The only option to use 7+ Taskbar Tweaker on Windows 11 is by downgrading to the old taskbar. You’ll have to use another tool for the job, for example Explorer Patcher, as I wrote here: 7+ Taskbar Tweaker on Windows 11 with Windows 10’s taskbar.
An alternative solution is to use Windhawk and install the mods you need. For having something similar to the don’t combine option, you can use the Disable grouping on the taskbar.
Hello RamMichael: THANK YOU for all the work you do.
I just got the latest Win11 “foisted” on me, and the “Taskbar Thumbnail Reorder” stopped working. And also the “Taskbar Clock Customization” has stopped working, although I did not notice how long ago that happened. I opened the Windhawk, and it told me there were Updates available for both components. I downloaded both. The “Taskbar Thumbnail Reorder” began working again immediately, but even after a reboot the “Taskbar Clock Customization” is not working. My clock stays with Windows default look, no matter what I change in the Windhawk.
I have Win11 Home, Ver 22H2, OS Build 22621.1702, Experience: Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22641.1000.0
Can you help me get it back to working again please? Please ask me anything else you would need to know to help me 🙂
Please run the mod with debug logs and post the output.
* Disable the mod.
* Enable Detailed debug logs in the mod’s Advanced tab.
* Click on Show log output.
* Enable the mod.
* Verify that the mod doesn’t work, copy the log output and paste it here.
I can’t find an “Advanced tab” anyplace, in fact I don’t see any tabs anyplace at all. If I click “Settings” I do see a link that says >Advanced Settings. But even when I open that, I see no option for “Detailed debug logs” There is a button there that says “More advanced settings” and there is nothing in there either that says anything about Debug logs”
However, when I right-click on the system tray icon, and click “Loaded mods” it shows the “Taskbar Thumbnail Reorder” as Loaded, but it shows the “Taskbar Clock Customization” as “Unloaded” And I cannot figure out any way to tell it to LOAD the mod. Don’t know if that helps at all.
When I said “in the mod’s Advanced tab”, I meant the following: Click on the mod’s “Details” button, then you’ll see tabs, like Details and Changelog. One of them is Advanced.
If you would still like to see my logs again, please let me know and I will happily send. If not, then THANK YOU THANK YOU for staying with me thru this, and hopefully this thread will help others who encounter the same problem.
You’re welcome, I’m glad that it works now. No need for the logs again. Old versions of Windhawk had an issue with interrupted symbol downloads which left a corrupted leftover symbol file. This leftover file wasn’t usable and prevented from the download to be attempted again. With Windhawk 1.2 and newer, it should no longer happen.
Thank you !
Thank you for 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, it’s very usefull !
Ungroup apps.
Reserve empty space on taskbar for right click ! Very cool.
And display seconds on the tray dock 🙂
Could you add the “Remember the order of taskbar buttons” option?
The “Don’t group” option is very useful. I often manually order Taskbar buttons to facilitate switching windows. And I also use Windows virtual desktops for different types of work.
When I switched virtual desktops, I find that the order I had set manually changed back to the original order by opening time.
So I thought it would be possible to add an option to remember the order?
The virtual_desktop_order_fix advanced option of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker can help with this. See this blog post, and refer to the tweaker’s help file for more details.
oh, that’s good! Thank you very much for your support!
Hi,
The download doesn’t work from your website. I get a timeout from the server.
This is the URL I tried, from two different computers:
https://rammichael.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2021/11/7tt_setup.exe
It works from https://www.majorgeeks.com/ though.
Hi Jimi,
I’m not sure why you’re using the old link (rammichael.com), but it should still work. It works for me. The link will break after the next update though, I suggest downloading the tweaker from the official website.
As of why the link doesn’t work for you, I’m not sure, perhaps your browser or internet provider blocks it for some reason.
thank your for your work! it’s very useful to me
Hi,
I have recently installed Numberer onto windows 11 but whenever I run it I get an Error –
IDS_INJERROR_LOADDLL
Any suggetions?
Thanks!
Hi Sean,
Windows 11 is not supported, and I’m not sure whether support will ever be added. The taskbar in Windows 11 was completely rewritten, see this blog post for details.
Is it possible to add Arabic?
Add where? 🙂
7+ Taskbar Tweaker has an Arabic translation. Textify too.
Hello guys.
Please help.
On my Windows 11 programm is not work.
Aloha,
Thanks for this great tool. Is there a way to keep the current taskbar File Explorer items in the current order the next time I logon? Now, I have to reorder the items after each logon. I saw a solution saying to use virtual_desktop_order_fix but that doesn’t work for me.
Thanks
Hi,
No, there’s no way to do that. It’s tricky, since the next time you login, new windows are created as far as the taskbar is concerned, even if they look similar to the windows you had before you logged out. A tool can try to match properties such as window titles, but the titles can change or there can be several windows with the same title.
The virtual_desktop_order_fix advanced option does something different – it helps keep the order of taskbar buttons when you switch between virtual desktops.
Hi,
I appreciate your fast reply. No worries. At least I know the answer, which helps.
Have a good day,
Hi,
Can your software fix the taskbar unhide issues when running maximized windows programs?
Basically, for some lucky people like myself, the taskbar will simply not unhide if there is any maximized programs running. For me, it’s specifically the primary monitor, the auto-hide unhide taskbar works fine in my other 2 monitors.
Running latest version of Windows 10 as of March 22 2022.
Thank you
Hi Nick,
I have no solution for this unfortunately. If you’re using 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, you might want to make sure that the disable_topmost advanced option is not enabled. That’s my only guess of what, of all of my tools, can cause the problem.
Hey, Thanks for replying!
I eventually figured out that hidden applications that take the full display screen (like the GeForce Experience’s FPS Overlay and the Windows Snipping Tool) make the auto hide taskbar stay behind all of the opened maximized windows, that way it does not appear when you put the cursor on it. It’s a bug / glitch.
When the auto-hide taskbar is hidden and you see that thin taskbar line over open maximized windows, you know that it is working correctly. When the thin line is gone, that means there is an issue happening that is putting the taskbar behind all opened maximized windows.
The solution to my case was to disable the FPS Overlay from NVIDIA GeForce Experience and, in the case of the Windows Snipping Tool, to reposition (refresh) the taskbar a couple times after using it, then it goes back to normal.
I hope more people can find this solution and that it helps them. 🙂
Thank you Michael!
Windows 10 64 bit
thank you for this wonderful program!! i’ll be sure to let my friends who are still on Windows 10 know about this! What quality of life improvements!! THANK YOU!
How can I backup all Taskbar shortcuts and the order in which they appear into a backup file?
And restore them later?
What do you mean by “Taskbar shortcuts”?
If you’re referring to 7+ Taskbar Tweaker’s settings, you can find them in the registry here:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\7 Taskbar TweakerWell I did NOT mean 7+ Taskbar settings but all the icon/Thumbnails in Taskbar.
They can be seen as shortcuts to programs on partition.
How can I backup them?
I don’t know, sorry.
Hi,
I have Windows 11.
I was able to restore the Windows 10 taskbar and installed the 7+ tweaker for no grouping icons, however I am not able to get rid of the labels.
There is no option anymore to do “Always combine, Hide labels” like before.
I searched all over the web with no solution.
Can you please add this as feature for the next version / update?
Thanks
Eran
Hi Eran,
See my reply here:
https://ramensoftware.com/7-taskbar-tweaker-on-windows-11-with-windows-10s-taskbar/comment-page-2#comment-13448
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I tried it and it worked for me:
https://i.imgur.com/eKkAIiN.png
Maybe there was a temporary error on the website. Did you try installing again? Did you try downloading it manually?
Thanks for the great tool! I use it to minimize the size of taskbar which I keep on the left side. I adjusted the format of the short date and time in Windows settings to 4/5/17 format for the date, and 9:40 AM format for the time. These are the shortest display settings for the date and time, which allows them to be displayed even when the task bar is narrow. Do you know of any way that I could remove the year entirely from the date, and remove the AM/PM entirely from the time so that I could minimize the taskbar even further? This would probably involve a registry change.
Please see the answer here for several options:
https://tweaker.userecho.com/topics/32-custom-date-format
I am not sure I am the right person, but if you need anyone to contribute to start the project on vanilla win11 contact me via email, ty.
I assume that you’re referring to 7+ Taskbar Tweaker. Please see the following blog post about Windhawk mods for Windows 11 as an alternative for 7+ Taskbar Tweaker tweaks:
https://ramensoftware.com/windhawk-mods-for-the-windows-11-taskbar
I noticed that the “taskbar-button-click” mod actually behaves slightly differently than the “Middle click: Close” feature in 7+ Taskbar Tweaker. If I had multiple windows up (especially noticeable when working with multiple VSCode windows), 7+ would only close that one window. Windhawk tries to close every VSCode window at once!
Was this intentional? Is it possible to change to one-window?
I’d love to help with a PR, if I could. But I’ve gone through the C++ code and can barely understand it. I’m a Python/Typescript developer.
Aha… New info… If I open 2 VSCode windows on my left screen, and 2 on my right screen, and then middle-click, Windhawk only closes the 2 on that screen, leaving the others still running.
I have a hunch of what might be happening… When the “Combine buttons” setting (standard Windows setting) is set to Always, and I right-click on the taskbar button, I see “Close all windows on this display”. But when the “Combine buttons” is set to Never, right-clicking each button shows “Close window”. Maybe that “CTaskListWnd::ProcessJumpViewCloseWindow” symbol being hooked is the former (regardless if that menu item is visible when I right-click), whereas 7+ Taskbar Tweaker hooked some other symbol that represented the latter.
It’s semi-intentional. I’m aware of this behavior, and I know that some users prefer it to close all windows while others prefer it to close only one. I implemented the option that was simpler which is to close all windows. I’ll look into adding an option to change it in the next version.
I’ve just updated the mod, now it’s possible to choose from the following options for closing multiple windows:
Note that it was optimized for Windows 11, not all Windows 10 configurations are fully supported in this mod (like “Never group” which isn’t available in Windows 11).
I appreciate the time you put in to updating it. I really do. I wish I could say it fixed the issue, but the plugin still has the same behavior I described before… multiple windows of the same app on the same screen, taskbar set to never group windows, middle-click on one of them, windhawk closes all of them.
Did you look at the mod’s settings?
https://i.imgur.com/1H8QLMP.png
Yes I did see the new mod settings. Here is a full analysis of all possible combinations of Windhawk settings and Windows settings, showing which scenarios are still not behaving correctly. I hope this helps:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yNuo_vri_DmaLw7bICWYs9TQh3PaGEbCNZSs4XmoLKI/edit?usp=sharing
It’s been a while, but I finally found some time to get back to the mod. Thank you for the analysis and the detailed spreadsheet. I’ve just released a new version, 1.0.2, please try it and let me know if anything is still missing or not working as expected.
Can you make a command-line for moving a specific button in the taskbar ? Like : -l : list buttons, 5 2: move button 5 to position 2.
This would allow me to implement a (very) personal logic to taskbar sorting, and maintain it as windows are closed/added.
A “taskbar change detector” would be a great add to this (trigger a .exe/.cmd upon change).
I hope it’s not too much to ask, but seeing what TT & Numberer can do, this shouldn’t be that complicated/long to do for you.
Many thanks for making the great TT, a life-savior.
Hi,
It’s not that complicated, but it’s not a 5-minutes task, it requires some work. If you’d like to hire me to do it, please email me. My email can be found at the top of this page. You can also try using the 7+ Taskbar Tweaking Library to implement it yourself.
Thank you for the answer. I wasn’t aware of the TTLib, which actually does the job (ButtonMoveInButtonGroup & ButtonGroupMove and ). Great tool !
Is there a way to make the w10_large_icons advanced setting also apply to the start menu button? Or a separate setting to make the button any% larger?
I really like this setting making the icons sharp but the small windows flag is really noticeable.
The last version update on 5.13 says, that the installation requires 64bit operating system. But I have Windows 7 PRO X64bit :-/ . Where is the issue?
There was an issue with the server, it should be fixed now. Thanks for reporting.
THUMBNAILS: DRAG TO REORDER
I used Taskbar Tweaker primarily for the following feature:
Thumbnails (Drag to Reorder)
Will this be implemented in Windhawk (as a Mod) ?
I published the Taskbar Thumbnail Reorder mod a couple of days ago 🙂
https://ramensoftware.com/windhawk-mod-taskbar-thumbnail-reorder
I was enjoying Slick Window Arrangement but now all of a sudden it no longer has the sliding animation or the quick snapping effects.
It still works with the window key and different sizing of window with arrow key though.
I’ve tried uninstalling and reinstalling but it didn’t work
I just started Aquasnap to see something and now the sliding animation and snapping to edges is working.
Windhawk seems to make Aquasnap work on both monitors and ads the sliding animation because I don’t remember Aquasnap doing that on it’s own.
I don’t have the pro version of Aquasnap so I’m surprised that Windhawk and aquasnap work together on both monitors.
I’m not really sure but it seems to me that Windhawk enables the free version to work with both monitors and works with Aquasnap to enable sliding and snapping…
Ok problem solved I think.
Perhaps the Slick Window Arrangement mod conflicts with Aquasnap. I suggest to disable Aquasnap, or if you’re using it for other features, just disable its window arrangement features.
I know you said you probably wont do an update for windows 11… just curious.. how much money do you think it will take to do it?
It depends on what you really mean. If you want to use 7+ Taskbar Tweaker with Windows 11 while having the exact same behavior and features you had in Windows 10, you can use Windows 11 with Windows 10’s taskbar. Then the answer is $0.
On the other hand, if you’d like to use the new Windows 11 taskbar, then not all of the options of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker can be implemented without extra prior work. For example, for the decombine options – the new taskbar has no notion of decombined items, and has no notion of labels. So these have to be implemented first. All in all, it’s a huge amount of work, especially for somebody who doesn’t have access to the source code. It’s difficult for me to assess the amount of money for this kind of project, but a wild guess would be that it can be six figures or more. At this point, perhaps it’s easier to create a taskbar clone from scratch. It was done before, but it has its own challenges and drawbacks.
That’s also why I decided to take a different route and start by implementing the most requested features. Check out the Windhawk mods for the Windows 11 taskbar blog post, perhaps some of the options you’re looking for are already implemented for Windows 11.
id love to see it done
Can you please add an option which would it make more clear which tab is active? (Windows 10.)
Contrast between the active tab and inactive tabs is extremely low; you can hardly see any difference. Microsoft screwed up there.
Currently, I have black tabs with white letters. Old style (wide) tabs. Not those way-too-small and information-less default buttons. I don’t use pinning or any grouping.
Possible change to the active tab:
1: A thick bright yellow border of the active tab. Preferably: border color and thickness configurable.
2: Invert colors of the active tab
3: Quadripple the blue line under the tab. Preferably: thickness configurable, and/or change the color of the line.
4: Display a special icon in or over the active tab.
5: Quadripple the contrast (only for the active tab. Not for any other objects. I’m not gonna use the default hideous Windows ‘High contrast’ options, which changes many objects.
6: Make the active tab wider (configurable).
7: Move the active tab automatically to a dedicated extra toolbar (you can add a toolbar via: right-click on the Toolbar, Toolbars, New Toolbar…).
8: Pressing a combo key to make active tab blinking (although that would not be as good as the other options).
I don’t want any other things to change simultaneously: I only want to change the active tab.
BTW, if you mouse-over the tabs, they get slightly brighter. That’s also doing next to nothing for the contrast.
It was requested before, please see my reply here:
https://ramensoftware.com/7-taskbar-tweaker/comment-page-52#comment-13568
Hi,
The option to control volume when mouse is over
“The taskbar”is not working, though I have it checked.
My system:
Win10Pro version: 21H2
OS build: 19044.1889
Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4180.0
What to do?
Thanks!
Hi John, please check my reply to your email.
Hi Michael,
I’ve been using TT for some months on a 3-monitor Windows 10 system, and today the taskbar on the primary monitor is underneath apps (not on top as it should be) and therefore will also not unhide with mouseover at the edge. Any tweak or fix for this?
Never mind. Weirdly, this solution works: On the affected screen put Chrome in full screen mode with F11, then back out of full screen mode with F11 again. Voila!, now the taskbar will be back on top.
The “Taskbar Labels for Windows 11” mod does not seem to function on newer builds – 25231.1000 for example. ExplorerPatcher doesn’t work either – I can’t launch the Start Menu anymore, but the labels still work.
Microsoft needs to get their heads of the same and just implement this natively. I would be deploying Windows 11 everywhere if not for this lame restriction…
This is an insider build, and adding support for it is not a priority. I’ll try to look at it when I have some spare time.
I’m not affiliated with ExplorerPatcher. You might be able to find relevant information here:
https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher
Just to inform that 7+ Taskbar Tweaker works on Windows Server 2019.
Hi,
I just updated to win 10 22H2 (OS build 19045.2251). At startup I get a 7+ Taskbar popup saying:
“An unsupported build of Windows 10 was detected, probably an insider build. Proceeding will lead to unexpected results: the tweaker might fail to load, Windows Explorer can crash or hang. Proceed anyway?
If the tweaker fails to work, try the latest beta version.”
I am not running an insider build.
Additionally, I proceeded and at some point later the taskbar became unreachable (I could not left/right click on it and had to restart). But I cant know if it was a coincidence. Anyways, the warning message does not make sense since it is not an insider build…
PS: thanks for 7+ Taskbar Tweaker
please ignore the previous msg, I noticed I was running v5.12.3. I will upgrade and if the problem persist I will repost…
Hello,
Does your program allow adding new toolbars to the W10 taskbar as with W7 and 8.1?
Thanks
Hi, that should be possible out of the box, see:
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/67619-add-toolbars-taskbar-windows-10-a.html
Windows 11 is another story, the functionality is removed and the only way to get it back is to revert to using the old taskbar.
Hi, after updating windows 10 (now: 22H2 Build 19045.2364) 7+ Taskbar Tweaker doesn’t work any more. Errormessage: Library initialization failed, perhaps your Windows version is not supported. But it is still Windows 10 not Windows 11. Is there a solution? Thanks a lot!
Hi, are you using the 32-bit version of Windows 10? Please try the latest beta version of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker.
hello. please add a multi-line time format so that seconds are displayed at the bottom
Hi, is the question about 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, or about the relevant Windhawk mod?
Taskbar Tweaker
7+ Taskbar Tweaker provides limited customization to the taskbar clock. If you’re looking for more customization options, you might want to try out the Taskbar Clock Customization Windhawk mod.
Thank you so much.
The “Disable grouping on the taskbar” looks like it is a life saver (bit dramatic!) for me.
Using the “Taskbar Labels for Windows 11” as well – pictures on their own don’t work for me and are necessary of course with disable grouping.
I have been using the quick launch bar in all version since …
and really miss it. This seems to give an implementation that reproduces it – wonderful.
Looked for a “contribution facility” but couldn’t find one.
Cheers
Eddie
Hi Eddie, thanks for the feedback, I’m glad that you like Windhawk! What do you mean by a “contribution facility”?
“contribution facility” – contribute to costs – I am going through the open source software I rely on and making a small payment. Now I am retired I have the time.
Q? Might it be easyish to put items of the same programe next to each other on the task bar (so they are grouped together a bit). But not next to any originally pinned to the task bar (or else the pinned ones tend to move!).
You can contribute to the project on the Donation page. Thanks!
Regarding the grouping mod suggestion, it’s not so easyish, but it’s on my list to look at it and try to implement it.
Ah – was on the Windhawk site only.
Thanks
Hello, i am analyzing the 7tt_setup.exe file on https://www.virustotal.com/
And i got 2 red flags :
Alibaba Trojan: Win32/PackBackdoor.0142b83b
Cybereason: Malicious.ed0fed
Why is this happening?
Hi Nicolas,
These are false positive detections. Unfortunately, struggling with false positives is a non-ending hassle.
This problem is mentioned in the FAQ, and was discussed many times in the blog comments, for example:
https://rammichael.com/7-taskbar-tweaker/comment-page-43#comment-11035
https://rammichael.com/contact/comment-page-4#comment-10292
See also Nir Sofer’s blog post, Antivirus companies cause a big headache to small developers, a good write-up about the problem.
You can always help by reporting the tweaker detection as a false positive to the relevant antivirus companies.
Hi, using 5.14.1 and tried 5.14.1 beta on Windows 10 22H2 build 19045.2728
I’ve had to reinstall win 10 onto a new nvme ssd and I’m finding that I cannot get the min width when pinned to the right hand side as I used to. This has been a recurring problem for me over the years, but seemed to be well fixed. I tried some earlier versions, but no luck.
Any ideas (again…) no error message, just wont reduce the width (or height if horizontal) Perhaps some hidden icon is stopping it, but I removed everything I could see.
Regards, Gordon.
Hi Gordon,
Do you have taskbar autohide enabled? That’s not supported with the no_width_limit advanced option.
Also see the following discussion which mentions some details that may help:
https://ramensoftware.com/7-taskbar-tweaker-for-windows-10-may-2019-update/comment-page-1#comment-10580
Oh man, I forgot all about the advanced no width option, it’s been so long since I had to set this up. All fine now, thanks. 🙂
p.s. sorry it’s been a few days, the message was in spam. Almost everything gets sent to spam nowadays :sigh
Hi,
I’d like to switch between showing or hiding inactive symbols in taskbar tray.
This corresponds to changing the value “EnableAutoTray” in the following registry key: “Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer”.
However, it needs Explorer to be restarted to come into effect after applying a new value. Do you know any way to force such update without killing/starting explorer? Is there anything, 7tt could do via its DLL injection hooks?
Best regards
Jeff
Hi Jeff,
I haven’t explored this option and I don’t have a quick answer for your question. 7+ Taskbar Tweaker doesn’t have related functionality that can help. A solution can be to implement a Windhawk mod, but that requires some work for research and implementation.
Okay, thanks. I thought, maybe there’s something known already.
It’s not sooo important anymore. I have a temporary solution using a login script. That’s hopefully suffiicient. Thanks!
Hi, thank you so so so so so much for 7tt.
I was wondering, could you add an option to AUTOMATICALLY SORT TASKBAR ITEMS (ICONS) BY MRU(MOST RECENTLY USED)?
I don’t have the time to meticulously arrange taskbar items by context, and MS’s default implementation of grouping items of the same application together is a prime example of how predicting the users’ abstraction models is bound to fail; everyone has a different abstraction they’re working with in the head; for instance, I’d not want my book-im-working-on.docs to be grouped with family-party-invitation-list.docs, even though they’re both .docs… And I hate to have to use Alt-Tab for the MRU sorting; the previews are just too small, and you have to switch to unwanted/unintended windows just to get a bigger preview of them, which adds a record in the MRU sorting, ruining the whole point of MRU. Task View has bigger previews, but still not big enough. The good thing about the Windows taskbar is that upon hovering on the thumbnails, you get a full screen preview! Which is so cool! I tried Alt Tab Terminator, and removed the taskbar entirely with Buttery Taskbar, but ended up missing the Start button and the peek-desktop-thingy on the far end of the taskbar; not to mention, Alt-Tab, Win-Tab, Alt-Tab-Terminator, are all one gesture/click/shortcut away; the taskbar is not; the taskbar is always there… So it seems, the best would be if you were to add MRU into the taskbar… Please please, pretty please… I use Tab Slider (chromium extension) in Vivaldi, which automatically sorts tabs in MRU; and Tabs Studio in Visual Studio, which does the same; trust me, MRU is life-changing!
Hi,
Nice idea, I might try implementing it some day. Right now, I’m unfortunately busy with other things, but I’ll keep your suggestion in mind. You also might want to try using virtual desktops, they can help keep your workspace more arranged.
Thanks, mate. I’ll pray that you get to finish whatever you’re busy with soon and get to get free time soon!
Also, in 7tt, could there be an option to add and run any custom exe/shortcut(.lnk) on the Middle-Click and Double-Click-On-The-Empty-Space-On-The-Taskbar events?
Please see my answer here:
https://tweaker.userecho.com/topics/287-ability-to-run-application-or-even-better-trigger-a-media-button-on-clicking-on-empty-taskbar-space
Hey there, Thanks for this great software, I am in love with this and I can’t work without this on my windows 11.
I installed latest versions on 7+ but all the options are greyed out. Can you help me install this on my windows 11? I saw the guides but nothing is good.
I just wanted to use don’t combine option of Icon. Please let me know the ways.
Thanks
Muz
Hi Muz. The only option to use 7+ Taskbar Tweaker on Windows 11 is by downgrading to the old taskbar. You’ll have to use another tool for the job, for example Explorer Patcher, as I wrote here: 7+ Taskbar Tweaker on Windows 11 with Windows 10’s taskbar.
An alternative solution is to use Windhawk and install the mods you need. For having something similar to the don’t combine option, you can use the Disable grouping on the taskbar.
Hello RamMichael: THANK YOU for all the work you do.
I just got the latest Win11 “foisted” on me, and the “Taskbar Thumbnail Reorder” stopped working. And also the “Taskbar Clock Customization” has stopped working, although I did not notice how long ago that happened. I opened the Windhawk, and it told me there were Updates available for both components. I downloaded both. The “Taskbar Thumbnail Reorder” began working again immediately, but even after a reboot the “Taskbar Clock Customization” is not working. My clock stays with Windows default look, no matter what I change in the Windhawk.
I have Win11 Home, Ver 22H2, OS Build 22621.1702, Experience: Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22641.1000.0
Can you help me get it back to working again please? Please ask me anything else you would need to know to help me 🙂
Hi Jeff,
Please run the mod with debug logs and post the output.
* Disable the mod.
* Enable Detailed debug logs in the mod’s Advanced tab.
* Click on Show log output.
* Enable the mod.
* Verify that the mod doesn’t work, copy the log output and paste it here.
I can’t find an “Advanced tab” anyplace, in fact I don’t see any tabs anyplace at all. If I click “Settings” I do see a link that says >Advanced Settings. But even when I open that, I see no option for “Detailed debug logs” There is a button there that says “More advanced settings” and there is nothing in there either that says anything about Debug logs”
However, when I right-click on the system tray icon, and click “Loaded mods” it shows the “Taskbar Thumbnail Reorder” as Loaded, but it shows the “Taskbar Clock Customization” as “Unloaded” And I cannot figure out any way to tell it to LOAD the mod. Don’t know if that helps at all.
Can you tell what I am doing wrong?
When I said “in the mod’s Advanced tab”, I meant the following: Click on the mod’s “Details” button, then you’ll see tabs, like Details and Changelog. One of them is Advanced.
Oh wow. I thought I had looked everywhere. THASNK YOU for that! Here is the paste of the Output:
I suspect that your symbol files might be corrupted. Can you please try the following:
C:\ProgramData\Windhawk\Engine\SymbolsTaskbar.View.pdbfolder.If not, please collect and send the logs again, I want to see whether the error code changes with the folder removed.
That did it! Now I have it back working again 🙂
If you would still like to see my logs again, please let me know and I will happily send. If not, then THANK YOU THANK YOU for staying with me thru this, and hopefully this thread will help others who encounter the same problem.
Jeff
You’re welcome, I’m glad that it works now. No need for the logs again. Old versions of Windhawk had an issue with interrupted symbol downloads which left a corrupted leftover symbol file. This leftover file wasn’t usable and prevented from the download to be attempted again. With Windhawk 1.2 and newer, it should no longer happen.