7+ Taskbar Tweaker: beta versions
Starting from today, I’m going to publish beta versions of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker along with the regular, stable releases.
There are several rationals for this decision:
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Avoiding bugs in stable releases. This is usually the main purpose of beta versions.
Two of the tweaker’s most recent releases were followed by a hotfix the day after, just because I missed a minor thing or two. This is also quite relevant to the next point. -
Minimizing the frequency of update notifications. The tweaker automatically notifies when a new version is available. While this is a great feature, it can be annoying if the notification appears frequently, especially if it appears two days in a row.
Silent updates were suggested as an alternative solution, but first, they have to be implemented. Second, I’m not sure that 7+ Taskbar Tweaker is the right tool for this feature. It’s a low-level system tool, and it can screw things up, so if something goes wrong you can see it was caused by an update.Silent updates are available (off by default) starting with v4.5.10. -
Providing fixes which affect a very limited amount of users. There are issues which affect only users with a particular setup, a unique combination of options, etc. In such cases, it’s important to provide them with a fix, but it’s not a good idea to push this update to most of the other users, especially if the latest version was just recently released (see previous point).
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(Added in 2018) Providing limited support for Windows 10 insider builds. See the following blog post: 7+ Taskbar Tweaker and Windows 10 insider builds.
Some facts about the beta versions:
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The beta versions have version numbers of the x.y.z.a format. For example: v4.4.5.3.
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The beta versions do not notify about newer beta versions. They notify about new stable versions, though.
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The beta versions have no release schedule. I may release several beta versions in a day, for example. Since nobody gets notified about them, this should do no harm.
You can get the first public beta version on the download page.
Tags: 7+ taskbar tweaker
is it possible to force pinned icons to stay on the left or right side?
like with Firefox/IE/Chrome, when you open a page if another pinned item is next to it on the right side, it will push the pinned icon over instead of opening a new window on the far side of all the pinned icons.
i have the option set in 7+ to not group anything together so that the pinned icons remain separate from the open windows.
nvm about my comment, i just found that when i uncheck the “when not grouping, place new items next to the existing ones” option, it fixes my issue.
Hello,
I’ve got a feature request. Is it possible to add an option to show the notification area / info area on all screens? (I mean the bottom-right area which is currently only visible on the main screen)
Thanks!
Hi,
That is not trivial to implement, and is not planned.
Feel free to vote for the suggestion on UserEcho:
http://tweaker.userecho.com/topic/350422-multi-monitor-features/
Hello,
Thank you for your help. And I am allowed to use the 7+ Taskbar Tweaker 4.4.5.3 Beta.
On the setting of the dropping.(open with)
I can not open the folder.(Does not recognize the folder)
I’m sorry can not be English
Hi,
Please see my reply here:
http://rammichael.com/7-taskbar-tweaker/comment-page-6#comment-1155
In short, the “Open with” option is a feature of Windows, the tweaker only enables you to use it without holding the Shift key.
Thank you! I was able to understand.
I really wish taskbar tweaker would have various oppacity options for the taskbar.
Default in windows changes also all windows border and if you go too dark you wont see title text of windows and theres no option for title text color
so best would be only changing the taskbar transparency/oppacity or color.
I hope it’s ok to post links to other programs here. Taskbar Color Effects http://www.thewindowsclub.com/add-color-effects-windows-7-taskbar-taskbar-color-effects (sorry, don’t know how to format on this site) seems to do what you’re asking.
sweet, will give it a try
Have you ever seen Bins! http://www.1upindustries.com/bins/ a feature similar to this or other type of jump lists similar to Mac OSX would be a great addition to your already amazing program.
I’d also second the earlier request for color effects. The last thing I want to do is run multiple programs that are hooking into the system, more chance that they are going to conflict with each other.
Keep up the good work!
Very nice tool – it’d be cool if it could add the ability to show more than one clock on the taskbar as well, similar to this tool:
http://www.1stclock.com/show-multiple-time-zone-clocks.php
I’ve got an additional clock setup that I see when I click on the taskbar clock, but it’d be pretty nice to have it there permanent.
Are you working on compatibility with Windows 10 yet?
If not, please do. Or let us know if we need to request a mod to Win10 (through the technical preview program) that will allow us to run it there.
Thank you.
Hi Jim,
Please read the following post:
http://rammichael.com/7-taskbar-tweaker-and-windows-10
Thank you!
Hello,
Would it be possible to add an option to hide tray icons?
Thank you.
Hi,
I’m not sure what you mean, but if you’re talking about hiding icons selectively, that’s not planned. A similar feature is provided natively by Windows, why not use it?
Using v4.5.9.8 with Windows 10 preview build 10074.
Message: “7+ Taskbar Tweaker: Could not load library (107)” upon start. Also, thumbnail previews are appearing when “Show thumbnail preview (default)” “nothing” is checked.
v4.5.9.8 doesn’t support build 10074. Please try the latest alpha version, v4.5.9.9.
Thank you for the new version. The thumbnail preview suppression is working, thanks again. I appreciate your keeping up with all these builds.
The library message is still coming up, which is not a big deal. I have become accustomed to not seeing those previews, and I am grateful for stopping them, so the library message is not a big issue.
I ran into a little installation complication. I seem to remember something like this before, and I have forgotten the correct procedure to handle it.
I always log on as a regular user. I only use the admin account when I have to, and, being lazy, I usually don’t use passwords, especially on test machines. First, I used the “dumb user” approach. I double-clicked the downloaded file. Windows 10 took me to a “new-fangled” screen that said that blank passwords are not allowed. Then I tried the “responsible user approach”. I logged off the regular account, onto the admin account, closed the 7+ software, uninstalled it, and double-clicked the new file. It seemed to install normally and the new version came up and worked properly. Then I logged off the admin account and logged on to the regular account. The old version came up. I tried “run as admin” on the install download from the regular account. It told me the new version was already installed, but I ran it as an update. I still got the old version. Then I uninstalled the 7+ software and the settings from the regular user and ran the download regularly (not as admin). It seems to have worked perfectly. I did not get the “new-fangled” screen, it went right to the language selection, as it should. I am getting the new version, and it functions properly.
I understand how this is happening, but I am not quite sure of the correct procedure, assuming two users without passwords, one regular and one admin, with the admin seldom used.
Note that on “regular” machines I always have passwords, but this is a “test” machine. I had some new hardware to try, including M.2 storage and an ITX board, and I needed an OS to use on it. I often use the test machines like “thin-clients” with a browser and Open-office, and use RealVNC to access the other machines. This allows me to put the test machine in the most frequently used location almost immediately, which provides more opportunities for testing.
I remember that we talked about it on UserEcho, didn’t we?
https://tweaker.userecho.com/topic/612124-7-taskbar-tweaker-and-windows-10-preview-build-9926/
Yes, I remember now. I seem to remember figuring out a work around. I don’t remember if I wrote it out. I had to put Windows 10 aside for a while because it stopped accessing the local computers. Eventually, this fixed itself, so I resumed using it. For some unknown reason, Userecho.com is not letting me in and I can not find a password. I was previously having the multi-user issue with Boinc and one backup product. I think there is an exact procedure that will handle this for 7+. I never figured one out for Boinc, but they eventually changed the software.
I can email you the conversation if you’d like.
Thanks a lot for the application. I really needed to find a feature to keep the taskbar in the back. And your creation does this pretty well! 🙂
However, I have one concern. Upon installing the beta version, Windows Defender detected a Trojan and deleted it. (I tried twice … with the same outcome) Why do you think this happened? It doesn’t happen with the stable version.
Peace,
Byron
Sounds like a false positive. The beta version is less popular, and updates more often, so perhaps nobody reported about the false positive detection yet. Contact your antivirus company and ask them about it. Thanks.
Не удалось загрузить библиотеки 107 Win 10 x64
Have the same problem, please, help! I reaaly need to use large icons on taskbar!
it is posible to show full clock and date in small icons taskbar mode?
No, not with the tweaker.
You might want to try out T-Clock, which is designed for customizing the taskbar clock.
Just to let you know of a problem with latest beta 5.2.1.2.
Avast says it has a virus but Malwarebytes does not.
I have installed “7+ Taskbar Tweaker beta” in Windows 7 and it runs ok. Once installed scans by Avast do not indicate a virus, only the setup.exe file has the problem.
Additionally in Windows 10, even with Malwarebytes, Avast and Windows Defender all turned off and disabled, I cannot install. User Account Control is off as well. Presumably the Win10 OS is blocking the attempt to install but I cannot readily identify what Win10 component is saying there is a virus and will not allow the install to proceed.
HTH,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
30 December 2016 14:20
Hi Robert,
Sounds like a false positive. Please contact the relevant antivirus companies about this.
As for the Windows 10 issue, what do you mean by “blocking the attempt to install”? What message are you seeing? Can you make a screenshot?
I have submitted a copy of the file to Avast but do not expect them to act quickly. Avast is well known to throw up false positives.
I have managed to install in Windows 10 by turning off all the anti virus shields and waiting for 10 minutes. That is what a friend did so I followed suit. It worked, perhaps some anti virus require a longer time period to settle after shield turn off.
I had forgotten to take a screen shot of the pop up. It was not obvious which of the anti virus was producing it. No text in the message nor the title bar gave any indication. I could not see anything obvious in the Task Manager either. Strange.
But now all is working. Thanks..
Are you keeping these up with the Insider Preview builds? And if so, where can I find which version it will work with? Thanks!
No, I don’t. There’s no version of the tweaker which supports insider builds.
please update to support win10 Creators Update， I got 104 error， thx
Please see this blog post:
http://rammichael.com/7-taskbar-tweaker-for-windows-10-creators-update
I am waiting for a win 10 1803 beta and not a alpha Version 7+ Taskbar T..
Even beta doesn’t work with Win 10 1803.
Any ETA on when this will happen?
Yes, It does not work with 1803. Too bad. Hopefully it is not needed much work to make it compatible for new win version. Thanks!
Hi,
once again the win10 update has stopped the width of the taskbar being reduced when pinned to the right side of the screen.
I’ve got an access code today, but cannot see where I am supposed to enter it in the beta version 5.5.0.7
Thanks
Hi Gordon,
Thank you for the contribution.
7+ Taskbar Tweaker v5.6 was just released, which adds support to Windows 10 October 2018 Update for all users, without the need to enter a code. Please try it.
Please add the classic taskbar context to replace inmersirve taskbar context.
Actually, I’ve looked at it once, about a year ago, hoping to find out that it’s an easy task to do. I couldn’t find a trivial solution, and since I couldn’t dedicate a lot of time to it, I put it on hold.
Now I know there’s the Taskbar-Context-Menu-Tweaker project, which does more than just changing the color/size back to classic (that’s what I aimed for) – it also adds icons and extra entries.
So now, when there’s a polished and feature-rich solution for this, it wouldn’t be so productive for me to research the functionality, only to re-implement what is already possible to do with another tool.
I’m not saying that it will never happen, I might get back to it on some rainy day when I have spare time, but don’t hold your breath.
Thank you @RaMMichael although, that trick will have many tedious problems, because is not a permanent injection solution, because when the explorer.exe have been released-refreshed by others apps, the hook will be unhooked on explorer process, and you have to re-insert the code on CMD to mount dll, so explorer.exe can’t load aumatically dll on system32, you have to insert again the same code manually. it is irritating go to run at the terminal that inyection code everytime windows refresh ifself. too also i would like to have the old clock theme but apparently you dont like this idea, your time is very valuable.
I’m trying to download the Windows 10 beta version, but Widows Defender keeps telling me that there is a Trojan virus. Do you know why?
That’s a false positive detection. False positives are unfortunately common for new versions of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker and for beta versions which are less common. Please see the FAQ here and this blog post.
I’ve submitted the file to Microsoft with a request to remove the detection. Hopefully the detection will be removed in the near future.
Running windows 10 with classic theme on 1803 works fine but in 1809 you cant save or browse anything here is the thread about it : http://winclassic.boards.net/thread/343/1809-kills-explorer-classic-theme
Will this be fixed in 7 taskbar tweaker? Me and many other people need this feature.
Sorry, but I’m not as interested in such a project/feature.
Well that glues me and all the other classictheme users to build 1803 permanently…
Since sharing is caring here is how to bring classic theme back with taskbar and all http://winclassic.boards.net/thread/328/classic-taskbar-programs-win10-links
Microsoft are flagging beta 5.8.3.0 as dodgy and refuse to change, Kaspersky is Ok and it works on other machines OK.
Smart screen filter and then another part of windows (even with smart screen off) causes an install to stop. I have it running on another machine but now my company is blocking its install and saying 11 search engines says its not legitimate
When I suggest a search engine isn’t the right tool to check they know best
As I wrote in many other replies here, there’s not much I can do about it. You can submit a request to the relevant companies to remove the detection. That usually works. Unfortunately I don’t have the time to contact all those companies, and the detection often change.
My work laptop is refusing to let me install it. I even tried downloading it to a thumb drive from my home PC (which also tried deleting it), and then installing it to my laptop. My laptop deleted it from my thumb drive before I could even run it. 🙁
This might be the end of me using your product. I don’t know how I’m going to be able to work with my main Outlook window thumbnail on the right edge of my screen!
Is the file being deleted by an antivirus? Which antivirus product are you using? Are you see any message about the file deletion? Are you trying to install the beta version of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker?
According to VirusTotal, McAfee is the only product to (falsely) detect 7+ Taskbar Tweaker 5.8 as malicious.
I was trying to install the beta. On my home PC, windows Defender wouldn’t let me download it due to Smart Scan. Then i disabled Smart Scan. It downloaded it, only to have Defender delete it because it was detected as a Virus. I disabled that, too.
Finally got it downloaded. Put it onto a thumb drive and put it in my work laptop and McAfee deleted it from my thumb drive.
“C:\Windows\explorer.exe attempted to access D:\7tt_setup_beta.exe. The Trojan named Artemis!C4388D60B40D was detected and deleted.”
Unfortunately there’s not much I can do about McAfee. I tried to contact them about it but got no reply. As their customer, please contact their support team and ask them to remove the false positive detection.
For more details about false positive detections please see my comment here.
I contacted Microsoft. Defender should no longer detect the file as malicious.
Whatever you did fixed it for my work laptop! I was able to download the beta and install it! Thanks!!
I sent you a small donation as thanks. 🙂 I appreciate the personal attention, and I literally use this application every day.
Thanks again!
Thank you for the donation! I’m glad that it works for you now.
The 5.8.0.3 beta is currently detected by 8 / 68 engines
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/6468ca3866eebea33e97b7951af5c310fb521c7edbb98dbc1a3f3eb81f6e399a/detection
I submitted false positive report to F-Secure.
5.8.0.3 beta setup exe is no longer detected as virus, but starting it fails as it is detected as malware https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/suspicious_w32_malware_variant_online.shtml
5.8.0.0 CAN be run without this problem, has the beta version something “extra” ?
Currently, only compatibility for various uncommon Windows 10 versions. You can see the changelog here. So it’s perfectly fine to use version 5.8 if it works for you.
Thank you for your invaluable tool! It works perfectly when installed on my Win10 machine. However, after installing several applications (over a period of a few weeks), I’m noticing an issue that I’m having difficulty replicating and troubleshooting. Here’s my usual scenario:
I have several applications running (eg, notepad, word, outlook, SecureCRT), and SecureCRT is my left-most app. Opening a new tab in SecureCRT causes it to shift to the last position in my taskbar (ie, furthest right). I cannot reliably replicate this issue, but it occurs roughly 3-4 times per week. Any thoughts/suggestions? Couple more tidbits:
1) I’ve experienced this issue on two Win10 VMs. I have never experienced this issue on physical Win10 machines (yet?).
2) My latest Win10 VM was built on 11/20/19. I don’t think started seeing this issue on that VM until 12/12/19. According to my “Apps & Features” it looks like Notepad++ (64-bit) was auto-updated that day.
Thanks in advance for any/all feedback!
You’re welcome 🙂
There’s this issue in case SecureCRT hangs, which can cause the taskbar button to move. 7+ Taskbar Tweaker tries to fix the issue, but even though the fix helps most of the time, it can still happen.
I don’t have other ideas, except for the case of SecureCRT doing something weird.
Just wanted to follow-up: Looks like you were absolutely right–It must have been SecureCRT doing something weird. After updating it to Version 8.5.4 (x64 build 1942), I am no longer experiencing this jumping! Thanks again for your feedback.
(I updated SecureCRT on 1/30/2020, and have seen ZERO jumps since then.)
Windows10 2004 19041.264
failed to load dynamic link library (109)
I have exactly the same Windows version (update done this morning) and the same problem (109). I hope we will get a fix soon.
It hasn’t worked since the windows10 2004 update.
Is there any way for 7tt to work with the display fusion? I mean its working perfect but volume changing option does not on the secondary screen’s taskbar :'(
Please see my answer here:
https://tweaker.userecho.com/topics/496-add-displayfusion-support
Heute gab es ein Update in Beta Kanal auf Build 19024.421.
Seitdem meldet 7+Taskbar Tweaker kann die Programmbibliotheken nicht
laden, benutze Version 5.9.0.5 Beta.
The incompatibility is fixed in the newly released beta version, 7+ Taskbar Tweaker v5.9.0.6.
Hello, with Beta 5.9.0.9 it works perfect with Win 10 20H2 19042.421.
Thanks
Whenever I try downloading the beta version, the page refuses to load and gives me ERR_CONNECTION_RESET every time I try.
Do you still have this problem? You can try downloading it from a different website such as Softpedia.
Just a note for you,
I was forced by Microsoft to run a windows update related to not net. This update broke your regular version and temporarily locked up windows. I tried your latest beta version and it seems to work ok. Perhaps there is something that is stepping on your apps standard release. Leave it to Microsoft to break stuff…lol
Also note: Your app triggers a warning when running that it is a dangerous file.
I had the same issue as Scott above. The last windows update breaks taskbar tweaker from running but the beta version works fine.
Great!
the beta v5.0.9.10 is fix all of my situation with 7tt.
tool doesn’t work with latest windows 10 insider build 20211.1000
no_width_limit option doesn’t work
Please try the newly released beta version, v5.9.1.2.
it works fine. thank you!
I can’t run the latest beta version because Windows says it contains a virus.
Even had to download it via Terminal because Chrome wouldn’t let me but I still can’t execute it.
Yes, had the same issue. Windows Defender says that the file contains a virus.
Hiya, running Win64 Version 1909 Build 18363.1171.
Windows update just installed 2020-10 Culmative Update Preview (KB4580386) which causes 7TT to fail library load (107) at startup. Currently on 7TT b 5.9.1.2
*beta 5.9.1.5
Please try the newly released v5.9.1.6 beta.
Updated Windows again and it’s working! Thank you so much!!
Beta Version 5.9.1.5 works not with Windows 10 20H2 Build 19042.608.
Please Fix it.
Please try the newly released v5.9.1.6 beta.
Edit: Sorry, disregard the above comment. v5.9.1.6 adds support for build 19042.572. Build 19042.608 is not supported yet, I’ll look at it in the near future.
Please try the newly released v5.9.1.7 beta.
V5.9.1.7 beta works with Windows 10 19042.608 now, thanks so much, well done!
Do I have to donate $10 for the beta version? I am a student and don’t have that much money
Could just use the stable version, that’s free. Or roll back your OS and wait a little longer.
Hi,
Thanks for considering a donation. You can donate any amount you feel like.
I have a feature request: Would it be possible to create a separator between pinned icons? I have some 6-7, and would like them to be visually grouped, especially when they’re not open, for example, by adding some padding or a separator to have 2-3 “groups” (does that make sense?).
Along this note, it would be great to have a way to group the icons into folders of some sort: like one icon that on click shows the others. Is this already possible?
For now, as a workaround, you can add an item with a blank icon. See the comments here:
https://rammichael.com/7-taskbar-tweaker-v5-2-with-support-for-windows-10-anniversary-update/comment-page-1#comment-7194
Anything this tool could do for “ungrouping” in Windows11?
No, not at this time. For more information about Windows 11 please see the newly released blog post, 7+ Taskbar Tweaker and a first look at Windows 11.
Hi.
I really enjoy using the taskbar tweaker but have recently come into a problem i have not yet found a solution too. While 7+ Taskbar Tweaker is running it keeps refreshing the taskbar and thus rearranging the tabs. As soon as i exit or swirch of the taskbar tweaker then this behavior stops too. I am irritated by this and need help please.
Thanks a lot.
Bonez (South Africa)
Hi Bonez,
Can you please verify that you’re using the latest version of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, v5.12.3?