7+ Taskbar Tweaker

7+ Taskbar Tweaker
7+ Taskbar Tweaker allows you to configure various aspects of the Windows taskbar.
Most of the configuration options it provides can’t be tweaked using the taskbar properties or the registry.
The tweaker is designed for Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 10.

Download

exe 7tt_setup.exe (1.78 MB, changelog)
Latest version: v5.15
Note: The installer can be used to extract a portable version. Refer to the FAQ below for details.

Beta version
exe 7tt_setup_beta.exe (1.79 MB, changelog)
Latest beta version: v5.15.0.1
More info about beta versions.

Windows 11 Support Status

  • 7+ Taskbar Tweaker doesn’t support the Windows 11 taskbar, and probably never will. See this blog post for more details.
  • Some of the tweaks are available in Windows 11 as Windhawk mods. See here for the list of mods, and vote for missing mods that you’d like to see implemented. Read more about Windhawk here.
  • 7+ Taskbar Tweaker works on Windows 11 with the old taskbar which can be restored with third party tools. See this blog post for more details.

Demo video

Here is a video that demonstrates some of the tweaks:

Source code

https://github.com/m417z/7-Taskbar-Tweaker

FAQ

Q: Which registry keys does 7+ Taskbar Tweaker modify? I don’t need extra processes in my system.
A: The only registry keys the tweaker modifies are its own settings. There are no registry keys for the options it provides. The tweaker does that by injecting a DLL to explorer, hooking/subclassing/some other methods of the dark side.
As for extra processes, the tweaker is a native program, and is very lightweight. It shouldn’t slow down your system, and uses an extremely small amount of memory. Also, you can hide the tray icon if you want.

In case you want to remove the tweaker’s settings from the registry, look for them here:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\7 Taskbar Tweaker
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run (“7 Taskbar Tweaker” value)

P.S. if you’re a programmer, you might want to take a look at the 7+ Taskbar Tweaking Library.

Q: My antivirus complains about 7+ Taskbar Tweaker.
A: It’s a false positive. I guarantee that the tweaker binaries (and any other files on this site, unless specifically noted) are 100% clean.
Also remember that the tweaker injects into explorer and modifies its memory, which is indeed suspicious.

Q: Can I Group/Combine/Label only some of the items on the taskbar?
A: Yes, use Taskbar Inspector.

Q: May I use 7+ Taskbar Tweaker in a commercial environment?
A: Yes, feel free to use it wherever you want.

Q: Where is the portable version?
A: When installing the tweaker, choose the Portable type of install, as shown on the image below.
The portable version will be extracted to the selected folder.

Selecting the portable installation type

Note: If the tweaker is already installed on your computer, the option won’t be visible. You can launch the setup with the /portable command line switch to force a portable installation.

Q: I want to report a bug/suggest a feature! What is the best way to do it?
A: Post it on the UserEcho page.

Q: I want to translate 7+ Taskbar Tweaker to my language.
A: The archive below contains the files needed to be translated.
Please read readme.txt before proceeding.

zip 7tt_translate.zip (758.63 kB)

If you are brave enough to translate the help file, contact me for the required software and files.

Posted in Releases, Software by Michael (Ramen Software) on September 30th, 2009.
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6,567 Responses to “7+ Taskbar Tweaker”

  1. Asgoog says:

    How to hide Taskbar Icons that are located in windows taskbar?

  2. duk6046 says:

    Doesn’t work on Win11 23H2 new beta build 22631.2129 with StartAllBack v3.6.11

  3. alidan says:

    for a question, On windows 7 I was able to group programs that were not the same, like task manager and resource monitor, but on 10 these wont group, is there any setting or way to get programs like that to group? I have several that I like to keep together but they just wont on 10.

    • Windows 7 and 10 are similar in this regard. How were you doing this on Windows 7? You should be able to use Taskbar Inspector, or the “Drag within/between groups using right mouse button” option.

      Check out this post:
      https://ramensoftware.com/7-taskbar-tweaker-v2-0

      • alidan says:

        I had to move off 7, and since then the drive it was installed on died, so I can’t go back and look, however on 7 I was able to right click task manager, drag it to resource monitor, and it would be its own group, however I can’t get the same to happen on 10, it seems a bit random as to what can and can’t be grouped

        for instance, I can combine notepad++ with chrome, with everything, with discord, task manager and resource monitor, but when I try to combine resource monitor with the new task manager/notepad++ group it won’t do it.

        I don’t remember having any restrictions on what grouped together on windows 7 beyond there being so many things they no longer make group thumbnails.

        I can’t drag taskmanager to notepad++ but I can drag notepad++ to taskmanager

        any idea what is causing this restriction and if there is an option to deal with it?

        I just remembered that I do have another thing that messes with the task bar installed, openshell, any idea if something there conflicts?

        • That’s because task manager and resource monitor are running as administrator, so 7+ Taskbar Tweaker can’t affect their grouping. It behaves in the same way in Windows 7, too. One difference is that in Windows 7, task manager doesn’t run as administrator by default, but in Windows 10 it does.

  4. jeff says:

    how to keep open tasks to the right without dragging them. for instance I have pinned google chrome in the middle of other taskbar icons, but want to open to the far right whenever I open google chrome.

  5. Dr.InSide says:

    Useful tool. However, I miss a function to remove the “extra gap” between the SysTray icons. Especially in low resolutions the gap is quite big.

  6. John Gill says:

    Hey,

    Great program, very user friendly interface and easy to use.

    I would like to know if it’s possible to export the “disable_items_drag”
    registry and make it work without running the program, and I’ll eleborate why.
    I’m working as an IT technician at a school and I want to prevent students from rearranging the programs I’ve pinned on the taskbar, and the reason why I can’t run the program Is due to the custom antivirus that the municipality implemented on the computers.
    I’ve tried showing and explaining to the head of the IT department that the program is safe and doesn’t have any virus but unfortunately no success.

    Also I’ve tried all the local group policies to prevent changing settings in the taskbar but nothing works, the option to rearrange the pinned programs still works.

    • Hi John,

      Unfortunately, that’s not possible, as it’s not a registry configuration. From the FAQ above:

      Q: Which registry keys does 7+ Taskbar Tweaker modify? I don’t need extra processes in my system.
      A: The only registry keys the tweaker modifies are its own settings. There are no registry keys for the options it provides. The tweaker does that by injecting a DLL to explorer, hooking/subclassing/some other methods of the dark side.

  7. duk6046 says:

    v5.14.1.4 is doesn’t work on Win11 Beta Channel but v5.14.1.3 is still work

  8. chip33 says:

    Can confirm this and couldn’t find a place to re-download 5.14.1.3.

  9. skripskrap says:

    Hey man, I was wondering if there’s a toggle that hides the taskbar only on desktop?

  10. Reach says:

    Hey, bro! In the latest version of Windows 11 (22631.2265), it seems to have become ineffective.

  11. Darren Semotiuk says:

    NEW ERROR: “Taskbar wasn’t found (903)” – this FAIL popup happens even with NEW version 5.14.2 … anyone else having this happen?

    I am using Portable version if that matters. (Windows 10 Version 22H2 OS Build 19045.3086)

    PS: years ago that “$PLUGINSDIR” folder was required to work — it had some DLL files), but it is no longer included in recent versions — could something like that possibly help? Some patch with missing DLLs that Windows Update maybe overwrote?

    Thanks for this amazing product!

    • That error means that 7+ Taskbar Tweaker couldn’t identify your taskbar. Are you using any other customization tools that might be interfering with it?

      Regarding the “$PLUGINSDIR” folder, I’m not sure what you mean. See the FAQ for properly extracting the portable version of the tweaker.

      • Darren Semotiuk says:

        No customizations; turns out my Windows 10 was being flaky, so I essentially “rebooted” — killed all instances of EXPLORER.EXE from Task Manager and then told it it Run a new one — and voila it now could “see” the Taskbar.

        Whew!

        Thanks for the speedy reply, I really appreciate your enduring support of this important product! And I hope over the years many others have donated to show gratitude. Peace. 🙏

  12. Tomek says:

    I have a problem with taskbar windows. I never group windows into a taskbar. I usually have several browser windows open (I use Brave and Firefox) and I am used to having something in the first window (several tabs in one topic), in the second window I have another topic (again several tabs), etc. Unfortunately, after closing the browsers and opening them again when you open the windows, they are arranged in a random order – the first one jumps to the 3rd place, etc. (windows from one application are still next to each other on the taskbar, but mixed). I have to rearrange the order every time. Unfortunately, this also happens when I switch to the second desktop (Win+Tab) – after returning to the first desktop, the windows are already mixed.
    Is there any way to do this? Is it possible to somehow permanently assign the order of windows within one application?

    • after closing the browsers and opening them again when you open the windows, they are arranged in a random order

      Unfortunately there’s no general solution for that. For Firefox, you can try this extension.

      Unfortunately, this also happens when I switch to the second desktop (Win+Tab) – after returning to the first desktop, the windows are already mixed.

      You can use the virtual_desktop_order_fix advanced options. Refer to the help file for details.

  13. Dmitry Barabash says:

    Unfortunately, it’s incompatible with build 22621.2283 (today’s cumulative Windows update).

  14. Yevhen says:

    Where I can download the previous version? After updating 7++ task bar tweaker to version 5.14.3 it stopped working with the error: “Could not load library (102)”. The previous version worked.
    I am using Windows 11 (10.0.22621 Build 22621) with old task bar.

  15. Alex says:

    Great program and it does what i need to do but i’m not sure if i’m missing a button somewhere , but it doesn’t seem to remember that certain apps are part of a group. If i close the apps and re-open them they do not get re-assigned to the group and i need to re-assign them manually each time. Is there a way to save the “Group Template” ? So if i close the apps down they go back in their group when i open them again ?

  16. Michael says:

    Hello there,

    first of all, thanks a bunch for your work.
    After updating to v5.14.3 (I’m using W7) I get a notification once or twice a day on my PC. It says that the explorer.exe has to be restarted. As a consequence, the task bar disappears for a moment, and reappears again with items in a different order.
    It’s not a super big deal, but a bit annoying.
    Any chance to look into it, or any way to (for now) downloads v5.14.2?

    Thanks a lot.
    Michael

    • Hi Michael,

      Seems like a crash. Can you please provide the details of the crash report? You can find the crash report in the Event Viewer. Look here for instructions: How do I find event logs when a program crashes?

      Also, do you have other customization programs that may conflict with the tweaker?

      • Michael says:

        Hi Michael,

        here are the logs. The fist log is from the message that appears, the second one is from the crash report (event view error log). Sorry, it’ll be in German.

        Explorer.exe stopped working:
        Problemsignatur:
        Problemereignisname: APPCRASH
        Anwendungsname: Explorer.EXE
        Anwendungsversion: 6.1.7601.23537
        Anwendungszeitstempel: 57c44efe
        Fehlermodulname: KERNELBASE.dll
        Fehlermodulversion: 6.1.7601.24545
        Fehlermodulzeitstempel: 5e0eb6bd
        Ausnahmecode: e06d7363
        Ausnahmeoffset: 000000000000b87d
        Betriebsystemversion: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
        Gebietsschema-ID: 1031
        Zusatzinformation 1: 8719
        Zusatzinformation 2: 871917f7984f281de5dab5dd6604cbc9
        Zusatzinformation 3: d59d
        Zusatzinformation 4: d59dbb2eee77ea8ae8486e5ba12b2cbe

        Event Viewer Error/Crash Report:

        Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: Explorer.EXE, Version: 6.1.7601.23537, Zeitstempel: 0x57c44efe
        Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: KERNELBASE.dll, Version: 6.1.7601.24545, Zeitstempel: 0x5e0eb6bd
        Ausnahmecode: 0xe06d7363
        Fehleroffset: 0x000000000000b87d
        ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0xd44
        Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0x01d9ed1ec1eb37c0
        Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE
        Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll
        Berichtskennung: 2a5ce0f4-5945-11ee-8512-7085c247c210

        Hope that helps. Best,
        Michael

        • Unfortunately the report doesn’t have enough information to diagnose the issue. All I can deduce is that the crash happens because RaiseException is called, which means that some code bails off explicitly. The tweaker’s code doesn’t do that, but it might cause this if it corrupts some state.

          To gather more info, can you create a crash dump and send it to me?

          You can use ProcDump. Run procdump64.exe -mp -e explorer.exe and trigger the crash. The dump will be written to a file, the details will be printed in the ProcDump console window.

          Also, have you tried using your computer without the tweaker? Could it be that the crashes are unrelated?

          • Michael says:

            Hello,

            absolutely!
            I installed procdump and tried, but in the cmd it says it doesn’t recognize the command procdump.

            Cheers

            • What steps did you take? Try the following:

              • Download procdump here.
              • Extract the files to some folder, for example C:\procdump.
              • Open cmd: Win+R, type “cmd”, press enter.
              • Type cd /d "C:\procdump" (or whatever folder you used).
              • Type procdump64.exe -mp -e explorer.exe.
      • Michael says:

        Wow, it’s messed up in the message.

        I uploaded the entire report as an image: https://imgur.com/a/N4pMjsI

        Best,
        Michael

    • Regarding v5.14.2, you can get old versions of the tweaker here, but I’d rather fix the problem.

  17. Peter says:

    Hi,

    I just upgraded from W7 to W10 and now the bottom right corner that shows the desktop on click annoys me a bit because it also shows the desktop on mouseover.
    Can the mouseover be disabled please?

    Thank you

  18. Apis035 says:

    Hi,

    Could the “hide the start button” option do something different? Instead of fully hiding it, it would shrink the button into something like “show desktop” button on the corner right. Or making the start button pop-up when the cursor is moved to corner left like Windows 8 does.

    I’d say this is a feature request than a question, is it possible?

    Thanks.

    • Hi,
      Check out the no_start_btn_spacing advanced option. Refer to the help file for more details.

      • Apis035 says:

        Works as what I wanted 👍
        But why does the start button need to be double clicked to open the start menu?

        • If it’s for the primary monitor, make sure that the taskbar is locked.

          If it’s for a secondary monitor, I remember a limitation like this, and I tried to address it, but didn’t find a straightforward solution. In the end, the limitation is about the way the taskbar responds to mouse events, and the secondary taskbar is slightly different from the main taskbar in this regard.

  19. LoveDove says:

    Hi, I have been using 7+TT for years! And until today also on Windows 11.

    After today’s Windows update I got the message “7+ Taskbar Tweaker: Could Not Load Library (1004)”.

    I know win11 is not supported! but I’m begging you 🙂 please help me getting this one 7+TT feature to work:

    On 7+TT Icon -> Right Click -> Advanced Options -> no_width_limit 1

    Please teach me how to enable this in windows! Thank you

    If you are interested, these are the win11 updates that made 7+TT stop working:
    2023-10 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 11, version 22H2 for x64 (KB5031323)
    2023-10 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5031354)

    • Hi,
      I couldn’t reproduce the crash with those updates, Explorer Patcher, and the latest version of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker. What’s your version of the tweaker? Does it crash with all of the tweaker’s options disabled?

    • Also, can you create a crash dump and send it to me?

      You can use ProcDump. Run procdump64.exe -mp -e explorer.exe and trigger the crash. The dump will be written to a file, the details will be printed in the ProcDump console window.

      • LoveDove says:

        Michael, Thanks for answering!

        I thought I had the latest version but it was 15.4.1, so I uninstalled it and reinstalled Latest version: v5.14.3, and now everything is working again! 🙂 🙂

        BTW, I also use “StartAllBack” together with 7+TT.

        Sorry I didn’t do a crash dump before uninstalling, but it seems now unnecessary.

  20. AXY says:

    First of all thanks for incredibly useful program.
    Drag within groups using right mouse button – extremely amazing.
    Can You think about the one action in Double Click on empty space or Middle Click on empty space.
    So…
    Taskbar in Auto-hide mode…
    when notification occurs, the taskbar comes out of Hide (do unhide) and does not hide until the user activates the window that made the notification.

    sometimes the notification does, for example, one of the chrome tasks and sometimes the window is not even highlighted. (I turned off flickering – it’s very annoying during notification)
    in this case User cannot see what window occurs notification and forced to click on all windows sequentially.
    in addition, if the taskbar is located on top, it covers the captions of maximized windows or tabs in Chrome …. this is disaster.
    if You can please add action “Skip notifications and Hide” or something like that at Double or Middle Click on empty space.
    Thank in advance.

  21. fmnijk says:

    Can it show only thumbnail preview when hovering? Currently it will show both thumbnail and tooltip.

  22. MAURYCY says:

    Hi. ESET Endpoint Security antivirus reported an infection of the exe file (ML/Augur Trojan) and has been removing it since October 20, 2023. Previously everything worked fine. Can I fix this without changing my antivirus settings? I can’t manually add it to the whitelist because the administrator has blocked this option (it’s a company computer).

  23. Amelia says:

    nice work…

  24. Bill Gates says:

    Just a head-up in case you’re getting startup errors with slightly older versions: the latest beta seems to play nice with Win11 22H2 and StartAllBack. Catastrophe averted.

  25. Tero says:

    Is it somehow possible to get thumbnail previews when hovering over uncombined items, but list view when hovering over combined items?

    This would make it work more like it does on Vista. I have “Hovering” set to “List”, which works great for combined items, but for uncombined I just get a single list item of the same item I am hovering over, which is kind of superfluous. Would be nice if it showed the preview or window peek in a case like this instead.

    I believe in Vista it also shows window peek when hovering over list items of combined buttons. Not sure if window peek even is possible on Windows 10.

  26. Arrgs says:

    Getting incompatible version popups with the latest 7+ beta (5.14.2.1b) after updating Windows 11 to its 23H2 (2023 Update).

    I’m using StartAllBack to get back 7+ Taskbar Tweaker functionality, and it worked fine until today’s update. Any chance of an update? This numbered Windows update doesn’t seem to change anything that wasn’t changed with earlier patches, so it’s likely just a matter of including the new build number to the compatibility list.

    • Have you tried v5.14.3?

      it’s likely just a matter of including the new build number to the compatibility list.

      That’s not the case, there’s no “compatibility list” that affects functionality, if it doesn’t work or crashes then it’s simply unsupported.

      • Toivo says:

        The incompatibility message below probably what they refer to. I started having it as well. Also, where to get 5.14.3? This page says (and downloads to) the latest beta is v5.14.2.1 and I haven’t found an update.

        ——–
        An unsupported build of Windows 10/11 was detected, probably an insider build.

        This beta version has experimental support for Windows 10/11 Dev Channel build 25267, but it might work for other builds as well. If you have a newer Windows 10/11 build and the tweaker doesn’t work, check for a newer beta version.

        The experimental support is available for those who donated to the project. If you don’t insert a code, the tweaker will behave like the latest non-beta version.

      • Toivo says:

        Oh, lol, never mind about 5.14.3. I grabbed the latest beta without realizing that the official version is newer. Just tried it. Similar message (slightly different phrasing but same idea).

      • Toivo says:

        Another update, sorry. Just saw that the 5.14.3 allows to toggle the “Don’t warn me about incompatibilities in the future” flag, so looks like the issue is solved for now.

        • So the message is the only issue, and it works fine otherwise?

          What is the version of your explorer.exe file? (located in C:\Windows, can be seen in file properties.)

          • Toivo says:

            Yeah, both this and beta versions seem to work fine. I had the beta running with 23H2 for a few days and didn’t notice any issues at all, aside from the pop-up.

            The Explorer version is 10.0.22621.2428, modified on November ‎1, ‎2023, if that helps.

    • I’ve just released version 5.15 which is compatible with Windows 11 version 23H2.

  27. j7n says:

    After a prolonged uptime, possibly after some other program has executed, the standard window menu stops appearing upon right-clicking on a taskbar button. Nothing at all happens. A restart of the tweaker doesn’t help. This is on Server 2008 R2.

  28. Elias Dye says:

    Yes, for some reason, when I downloaded this, my taskbar started crashing at random times.

    • Can you please provide the details of the crash report? You can find the crash report in the Event Viewer. Look here for instructions.

      Also, can you create a crash dump and send it to me? You can use ProcDump. Run procdump64.exe -mp -e explorer.exe and wait for the crash. The dump will be written to a file, the details will be printed in the ProcDump console window.

  29. Scott Boynton says:

    My Windows 11 updated and now 7+ Taskbar Tweaker does not work with Explorer Patcher. Is anyone else having this issue or does anyone know of a workaround? Thanks.

  30. Scott Boynton says:

    Meaning 7+ Tweaker no longer works, it is all greyed out. I am using v5.15

    Patcher is 22621.608.51.6

    • It doesn’t become grayed without an error message. Do you remember seeing an error message? Perhaps you selected to never show it again.

      Also, are you using ExplorerPatcher in Windows 11 taskbar mode? This mode isn’t supported by the tweaker.

  31. Scott Boynton says:

    I did not see an error message. I downloaded StartAllBack and that is working for now except I cannot get rid of the annoying search magnifying glass on the taskbar next to the start menu. I will probably just keep this until the trial runs out and then hopefully 7+ will work on Explorer Patcher by then.

  32. Charles says:

    Hi,

    Since updating my Windows 10 last time (explorer.exe version 10.0.19041.3693, Windows version 19044.9693), explorer.exe has been randomly crashing. I managed to get a stack trace. Do you think this might be caused by incompatibility with 7 taskbar tweaker?

    EXCEPTION_RECORD: (.exr -1)
    ExceptionAddress: 00007ff7e1d6b8bf (explorer!CWindowTaskItem::UpdateLastActivatedTime+0x000000000000002f)
    ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
    ExceptionFlags: 00000000
    NumberParameters: 2
    Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000
    Parameter[1]: 00000000001b27e0
    Attempt to read from address 00000000001b27e0

    CallSite explorer!CWindowTaskItem::UpdateLastActivatedTime + 0x2f BSTR 0x38
    FunctionName CWindowTaskItem::UpdateLastActivatedTime BSTR 0x28
    FunctionOffset 0x2f unsigned __int64
    Parameters BSTR 0x0
    StackOffset 0x2eaedf0 unsigned __int64
    ReturnOffset 0x7ff7e1d28c32 unsigned __int64

    [0x0] explorer!CWindowTaskItem::UpdateLastActivatedTime+0x2f 0x2eaedf0 0x7ff7e1d28c32
    [0x1] explorer!CTaskListWnd::ActivateTask+0x82 0x2eaee20 0x7fffbcf1ca68
    [0x2] inject!Init+0x8f78 0x2eaee80 0x7ff7e1d6b6b2
    [0x3] explorer!CTaskListWndMulti::ActivateTask+0x32 0x2eaeec0 0x7ff7e1d19978
    [0x4] explorer!CTaskBand::_HandleTaskActivated+0x24 0x2eaef00 0x7ff7e1d19753
    [0x5] explorer!CTaskBand::_HandleActivate+0x8f 0x2eaef30 0x7ff7e1d19678
    [0x6] explorer!CTaskBand::_OnWindowActivated+0x80 0x2eaef80 0x7ff7e1d18c7a
    [0x7] explorer!CTaskBand::_HandleShellHook+0x5aa 0x2eaf010 0x7ff7e1d183ad
    [0x8] explorer!CTaskBand::v_WndProc+0x103d 0x2eaf0c0 0x7ff7e1d5b2c8
    [0x9] explorer!CImpWndProc::s_WndProc+0x78 0x2eaf2a0 0x7fffd9c4e858
    [0xa] user32!UserCallWinProcCheckWow+0x2f8 0x2eaf2e0 0x7fffd9c4e4ee
    [0xb] user32!CallWindowProcW+0x8e 0x2eaf470 0x7fffc15e9aaa
    [0xc] comctl32!CallNextSubclassProc+0x9a 0x2eaf4c0 0x7fffc15e99e8
    [0xd] comctl32!DefSubclassProc+0x88 0x2eaf540 0x7fffbcf309fe
    [0xe] inject!Init+0x1cf0e 0x2eaf590 0x7fffc15e9aaa
    [0xf] comctl32!CallNextSubclassProc+0x9a 0x2eaf610 0x7fffc15e98a7
    [0x10] comctl32!MasterSubclassProc+0xa7 0x2eaf690 0x7fffd9c4e858
    [0x11] user32!UserCallWinProcCheckWow+0x2f8 0x2eaf730 0x7fffd9c4e299
    [0x12] user32!DispatchMessageWorker+0x249 0x2eaf8c0 0x7ff7e1d5a263
    [0x13] explorer!CTray::_MessageLoop+0x183 0x2eaf940 0x7ff7e1d5a0cc
    [0x14] explorer!CTray::MainThreadProc+0x5c 0x2eafa20 0x7fffd94cbf69
    [0x15] SHCore!_WrapperThreadProc+0xe9 0x2eafa80 0x7fffd8d27344
    [0x16] kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x14 0x2eafb60 0x7fffdac626b1
    [0x17] ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x21 0x2eafb90 0x0

  33. AnyKey says:

    Hello. This program is great and I use it every day.
    I tested Windows 10 19045.3758 for my purpose and realized some system tray icons are missing if you have reduced the icons padding.
    I guessed the build itself triggers the issue but some people experienced this issue in the past (Source: https://winclassic.net/post/15891/thread).
    I’m using version 5.15.

  34. PBJ says:

    I have used 7+TT for years – thank God and you! – and consider it almost essential, and am now using it under W/11 combined with Explorer Patcher.

    However, while I normally definitely want to combine/group buttons by application ID, when it comes to multiple installations of Firefox Portable (each with its own Profile and labeled and generally used for its own purpose) then I would rather have them separate on the Taskbar.

    So my question is, how can I enable this? Finding and changing the application ID seems to be quite a process. Thanks

    • From the FAQ above:

      Q: Can I Group/Combine/Label only some of the items on the taskbar?
      A: Yes, use Taskbar Inspector.

      Does that answer your question?

      • PBJ says:

        Thank you for the response, yet using Taskbar Inspector I cannot drag or move the items outside this group. I can only drag the ones within a group.
        And the r. click does nothing.

        The link is a composite of what Taskbar Inspector shows, including a right click, and the second image of what is seen on the Taskbar.

        https://i.postimg.cc/3RkZ2myC/7TT-jpg.jpg

        • PBJ says:

          I was able to achieve results via Taskbar Inspector but the changes do not hold upon browser restart. First however, there was a mysterious glitch in Windows (which some others have had) which results in those up and down arrows (seen in my previous image) when doing a right click on any icons in the Start menu and in Taskbar Inspector.

          So I rebooted and that fixed that problem. At this point all the Firefox icons were stacked as seen before. So I clicked Taskbar Inspector, and hit the top (Amazon) Firefox, then “change application ID” and then chose Firefox Portable seen in the composite below, and which instantly separated the icon in the Taskbar

          Then I tried to do the same with the next one (Walmart) but choosing Firefox Portable that would do anything, so I chose Random_group and which also instantly separated the icon in the Taskbar, thus leaving the remain one separate. However, after shutting down and restarting the browsers then it went back to all 3 being stacked.

          So i am able to separate them (even just using chose Random_group id’s) but this does not last.

          Sorry to take up your time, and I sent a small donation.

          Thanks. Grace and peace thru Jesus the Lord.

          https://i.postimg.cc/R0XzQfYq/printkey505.jpg

          • Thank you for the donation, I appreciate it.

            If you want only Firefox to alway be separated, right click on its AppId and choose Group -> Never, just like on the screenshot I linked earlier:
            https://ramensoftware.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Taskbar-Inspector.png

            • PBJ says:

              Sorry, but that TI option (Group-Never) did not work with my set up, not initially or even after restarting File Explorer and the programs at issue. All three FF Taskbar icons remain in one stack regardless.

              Only by using Taskbar Inspector to assign a random app. I.D. works to de-group the TB buttons for these, until they are restarted (although the setting remains if I restart File Explorer)

              Composite: https://i.postimg.cc/FRk5J4tr/7TT-TI.jpg

              Otherwise, I must choose “Don’t Group” by application I.D. in the 7++TT main window, but that overpopulates the Taskbar since then even every document then has its own icon/button.

              Do not concern yourself much with this, as I have a very rare situation and should reinstall all my portable FF installs.

              Since I employ multiple tab rows on these
              (https://github.com/Izheil/Quantum-Nox-Firefox-Dark-Full-Theme) which requires updating each one of my 5 installations when a FF update breaks then, then for now I just replaced the FF executable the last time. No wonder the I.D. is messed up.

              • On the screenshot you posted, you don’t right click on the Firefox AppId, instead it’s the first AppId belonging to Explorer.

                • PBJ says:

                  Yes, while the composite pic can be confusing, for the “Group>Never I had it by Explorer, and there is no AppId on that row.

                  Note that assigning a random app. I.D. results in de-grouping the 3 FF buttons even if I shutdown 7++TT and restart it, as it does after a Explorer.exe restart.

                  Only if it shutdown restart the FF browsers at issue do they go back to being in one grouped stack on the TB.

                  Yet, as I often go for weeks before shutting down, then using Taskbar Inspector to assign a random app. I.D. is a good workaround until I take the time to reinstall the browsers, and migrate better.

                  And or since some right click menus stopped appearing, which happened after the last Windows update (but which may be due to something I did), then I may revert back to a previous state.
                  Thanks again.

    • I do not even get a Group>Never via R. click on Firefox

      What do you mean? What do you get when you right-click on the location I posted? (https://i.imgur.com/bW7TZFP.png)

  35. vrb says:

    thank you so fucking much oh my god

    i have a particular order i keep my browser windows in and my laptop does this thing where it likes to move the leftmost window allllll the way to the right whenever it feels like it

    now i can fix that instead of having to close out of all my stuff before opening it back in the correct order

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