7+ Taskbar Tweaker on Windows 11 with Windows 10’s taskbar

7+ Taskbar Tweaker on Windows 11 with Windows 10’s taskbar

Windows 11 was officially released two days ago, and here’s another post about 7+ Taskbar Tweaker’s compatibility with it. In short: Nothing changed regarding the tweaker’s compatibility with the new Windows 11 taskbar, and probably never will, but there’s a way to get back the old taskbar, with which 7+ Taskbar Tweaker is mostly compatible.

Getting back the old taskbar in Windows 11

Let’s start with the good news. Even though Microsoft reimplemented the new Windows 11 taskbar from scratch as was mentioned in the previous blog post, the old taskbar code was left beside the new one, and there are several ways to activate it. Here is a great summary of the options by Gaurav, but I’ll just mention the steps that worked for me:

  • Install and configure Explorer Patcher for Windows 11, a great project by Valentin-Gabriel Radu which brings back the old taskbar on Windows 11, and fixes some of the quirks that have to be fixed as a result.
  • Install the latest beta version of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker (non-beta support will follow soon, keep reading for details).
  • Enjoy Windows 11 with the good old taskbar tweaked to your taste.

The latest beta version of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, 5.11.2.1, has most of the tweaks working with the old taskbar on Windows 11. Originally designed to be compatible with a Windows 10 Dev Channel build, the beta version requires a supporter access code for it to work on Windows 11. Your support is highly appreciated, and if you have any problems with it, feel free to contact me.

The latest non-beta version of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, 5.11.3, doesn’t support the old taskbar on Windows 11. I’ll be working on a new, fully compatible non-beta version, which should be ready in the near future.

Update (October 22): Windows 11 with Windows 10’s taskbar is fully supported in 7+ Taskbar Tweaker v5.12.

Regarding the new taskbar in Windows 11

As I mentioned at the beginning of this post, 7+ Taskbar Tweaker will probably never be compatible with the new Windows 11 taskbar. It took a lot of time and effort to implement all of the functionality for the old taskbar, and since most of it has to be reimplemented from scratch, it’s not feasible to have a tool with a similar set of functionality in the short term. At the beginning it will only contain a small subset of the old options. Also, I might end up adding new tweaks which are only relevant for the new taskbar. With all this in mind, it makes sense to start fresh.

I played with the new taskbar a bit, and there are two scopes for possible tweaks:

  • Non-UI tweaks, which are about customizing code unrelated to the UI. Of the two, I’m much more familiar with tweaking these kinds of things. An example would be a tweak to close programs on middle click instead of creating a new instance – I don’t need to fiddle with the UI, I can just replace the new instance launching functionality with closing the target program. Actually, I’ve implemented it for the new taskbar and it works nicely.
  • UI tweaks, which are about customizing UI code. An example would be a tweak to get back labels on the taskbar. Being unfamiliar with the new UI framework that is used in the new taskbar, I need some time for research to even be able to estimate the difficulty of such tasks. The new UI framework might, or might not, make tweaks easier than for the old taskbar, but at this point I still don’t know how to approach it.

My plan is to start with non-UI tweaks, and at the same time explore the new UI at my spare time. I’ll try to prioritize the tweaks according to the users’ demand, ease of implementation, and my own interest.

Posted in Software, Updates by Michael (Ramen Software) on October 6th, 2021.
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134 Responses to “7+ Taskbar Tweaker on Windows 11 with Windows 10’s taskbar”

  1. John Smith says:

    Hi. Sorry for asking something that has already been answered, but I am not sure I fully understand the situation. I don’t know if I should upgrade from W10 to W11 or not, but it might be a good idea to get a head start and get familiar with it. The only reason that I didn’t is because you were just looking into getting 7+TT to work with W11 at the time, and it didn’t seem probable. But I think that now you are saying with 100% confidence that 7++ will work in W11 now if I use the Explorer Patcher? Is that still the best way to get the W10 taskbar, and do you recommend going to W11? I’d hate to get stuck with a OS that I don’t like but I’m also more scared that 7+TT will stop working in it one day and then I’d truly be miserable.

    • Hi John,

      you are saying with 100% confidence that 7++ will work in W11 now if I use the Explorer Patcher

      7+ Taskbar Tweaker works with the Windows 10 taskbar on Windows 11. One way to get the old taskbar is with Explorer Patcher. There are other ways, you can see the summary post that I linked.

      Is that still the best way to get the W10 taskbar

      I don’t know, I haven’t tried other ways.

      and do you recommend going to W11?

      I don’t know. Personally, I’m still using Windows 10 on all of my devices. I will switch at some point but for now I don’t see a good reason to update.

  2. denis says:

    I would install an “11 Taskbar Tweaker” just for Thumbnails “Drag to reorder”. (I also like the “Display seconds on the tray clock”.) The remaining is good to have. I doubt it could be easy though. Best to you!

  3. Liam says:

    How can I hide the text at the right of the icons at the taskbar on Windows 11?

    • By default, Windows 11 doesn’t show text labels on the taskbar. If you’re using a tool such as Explorer Patcher, you can probably use the tool’s configuration for that. Alternatively, if you’re using 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, you can use the tweaker’s show_labels advanced option.

  4. ed chapman says:

    I have downloaded your taskbar tweaker but can find no way to use it to eliminate the show desktop

  5. Brandon Cook says:

    Is there any plan to support Start 11 as a standalone taskbar solution now that its recent betas no longer requires Explorer Patcher to ungroup buttons and show labels?

    That was a big step forward for their solution, but I still miss the ability to rearrange within groups, scroll to change volume, and other great 7TT goodies.

  6. Shock Micro says:

    Hi! I use your program in Windows 11 using Explorer Patcher (which is why I comment here) and I just wanted to let you know of a breaking bug that started occurring after a Windows update, it says it’s build Windows 11 Home 22581.ni_release220318-1623 – essentially the program fails to hide the Windows icon and tries to reload the File Explorer a lot. I realize you might already be aware of this issue, but I’m sharing it anyway. This is why I don’t like updating…

  7. Gustavo says:

    Hi Michael, is it possible to run only the taskbar inspector module with the original Windows 11 taskbar? It would be great to have a tool get the taskbar appid.

  8. Michaux R says:

    Hello Michael,
    I’m using this soft since 2 or 3 years now and i love it !
    I’m on the Windows beta channel and got Windows 11 very soon and couldn’t use 7+TT from that moment.
    I’ve recently installed Explorer Patcher and tried 7+TT again, it works but I have 1 problem.
    When I hover an application icon, everything (even my mouse) freeze and the explorer crash then restart. I found that the options “Show thumbnail preview” and “list” are causing the problem, the two other options are working great.
    That’s not really a problem for me but i would like to know if it this because of my windows config or just a slight bug to fix.
    Thank you for your time !

    • Hi Michaux,

      Dev (beta channel) builds of Windows 11 are a moving target and aren’t fully supported. I’ll try to look at it when I have some time, but it’s not a priority.

      • Michaux R says:

        Hi Michael,

        I totaly understand that, maybe I should stop using beta channel, this was necessary before but it’s just by curiosity now.

        While in beta channel, with the thumbnail disabled, once by windows start, I have a freeze for 2-3 sec (exactly the same as with thumbnails) when I begin to move some window, after that freeze it’s all good until next restart.

        Like I said, that’s not really a problem for me, I just wanted to let you know.

        Keep going !👍

  9. Ton says:

    Hi Michael,

    Until recently I used your 7+ taskbar tweaker with great pleasure and gratitude. A few weeks ago I bought a new laptop with win11. Unfortunately, 7+taskbar tweaker no longer works properly. I was very happy that there was a solution by using Explorer Patcher. However, when using virtual desktops, 7+taskbar tweaker does not work quite right. When switching back to previous desktop, the taskbar items are reset in the original order of opening and not in the order I give them. Is it possible to repair this in a future update?

    Kind regards, Ton

    • Hi Ton,

      By default, the order of the taskbar items is not preserved both in Windows 10 and Windows 11. You can use the virtual_desktop_order_fix advanced option to solve this. See here. You can enable the virtual_desktop_order_fix advanced option by right clicking the tray icon, selecting Advanced Options, and setting it to 1.

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