7+ Taskbar Tweaker for Windows 10: beta version
About a week ago, Windows 10 became generally available for updating. Today, I’m happy to present the beta version of 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, which is compatible with Windows 10. All the existing options should work, except the following advanced options: list_reverse_order and tray_icons_padding. These two options cannot be tweaked in Windows 10 using the same tricks that the tweaker used in earlier Windows versions, so they don’t work in Windows 10. I might look at reimplementing them for Windows 10 in the future.
Please try the beta version, and if you encounter any issues, please let me know.
Posted in Software, Updates by Michael (Ramen Software) on August 7th, 2015.
Tags: 7+ taskbar tweaker
Tags: 7+ taskbar tweaker
I can’t install this version on Windows 10. It gives the error:
Windows 10 support is under development.
(…)
Open the link now?
[Yes] [No]
Did you leave an OS check in there that shouldn’t be there anymore?
P.S.
Installation in Windows 7 works, but copying the installed files over to Windows 10 and starting the executable gives the above error, too.
Oops, never mind. Got my hands on the wrong installer.
Hi. Since I’ve downloaded the latest beta (for use in Windows 10) i’ve been having an issue regarding brightness on my laptop.
It may just be a coincidence but it seems as though with the tweaker enabled at start up (say ‘upon resetting’), the brightness on my computer seems to stay maxed out (it’s normally meant to drop down when Windows starts to the set level of brightness). Checking the settings at those times, it still says the brightness is at 10% and then adjusting it seems to make it change as it should.
This may just be an issue on my end, but it only seems to have happened since I reloaded the program (beta) on.
Hi,
Did you try to disable/uninstall the tweaker and restart? Does the issue still persist? The tweaker does not make permanent changes to the system, so if you’ll still have the issue, it will probably mean that the issue has nothing to do with the tweaker.
It appears it may have just been coincidence. I think it may have had something to do with my user account. I’d previously also performed a “sfc/scannow” for something else and something to do with that may have actually had an impact. Once i’d changed my account to a local account I restarted it a few times and it didn’t happen.
Since then i’ve made it a ‘microsoft’ account again, but disabled syncing (just in case) and reloaded the tweaker again, and it hasn’t done it since. Prior to that both uninstalling the program and removing settings didn’t help either anyway. Thanks for your help anyway, appreciate it.
RaMMicHael,
I work for a company that was using 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, until we got the Cryptolocker Virus through an email. Since then we have added new software to help stop the Cryptolocker Virus. THe parameters of this new program disable your program from working… because of the + character in your programming. Is there anyway you could reprogram your 7+ Taskbar Tweaker to eliminate this character. If there is I could come up with all the characters that this program would recognize and disable your software from running.
The feature of your software that we use is the ungrouping by Application ID in the taskbar.
Maybe there is a tweak in the registry that we could apply??
You can choose a different folder and rename the file manually:
* While installing, choose a path without symbols, such as “SevenTaskbarTweaker” instead of “7+ Taskbar Tweaker”.
* Open the installation folder and do the same with the .exe file, i.e. rename “7+ Taskbar Tweaker.exe” to something like “SevenTaskbarTweaker.exe”.
* To fixup the startup path, open the settings dialog, and uncheck the “Run at startup” checkbox. Then re-check it.
Hey, thank you so much for the public beta. Works flawlessly.
(Things said to be working are working, no errors or odd behavior since installation. Things like tray_icon_padding are already mentioned to currently just working with the previous Windows versions)
It works without hiccup. It’s has really good stability for beta program. Even the response time is better. Keep up good work Mike.
Thank you as always, you are my hero.
Thanks a lot for this! much appreciated!~
I noticed a weird behavior when using virtual desktops (only happens with the “On the taskbar, show windows that are open on” option on “only the desktop I’m using”).
If I have multiple instances of a window, say two folders on each virtual desktops, if I click to cycle through them it will jump back and forth between windows from both desktops but not cycle through all of them.
It would be nice if it either cycle through all of them or just the ones on the current virtual desktop.
in any case, thanks again for updating this awesome tool!
On my PC, it scrolls just the ones on the current virtual desktop. Could you please provide your tweaker settings and taskbar properties, so I’ll try to reproduce with your settings?
If you could provide a video, that would be awesome.
Here’s the screenshot of my settings.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20963193/7tt.jpg
It basically just switches between the last active instance window from one desktop to the last active instance window of other desktop, and back again. If I have more than two virtual desktop it won’t go to the others.
It happens with any programs that can have more than one instance open on each virtual desktop.
If you can’t reproduce it I guess it must be something on my side, so I’ll keep checking.
Thanks for looking on it!
That’s right, it will cycle only between items on the current taskbar, which are all on the same desktop.
This option has nothing to do with program instances. It just looks at the taskbar, finds the currently selected item, moves to the right/left, and activates the next item.
Could it be that you’re misunderstanding the option? Or perhaps I don’t understand what you mean.
Oh I mean the option “left click on combined item” (cycle through windows). not the mouse wheel one, that one works properly.
sorry that I didn’t specified which one.
OK, now it’s much clearer π
In fact, this option is not implemented by the tweaker. It’s a Windows option, which can be enabled by holding the Ctrl button. The tweaker merely makes Windows think that you hold the button.
lol I did check using just Ctrl and click and does the same thing…. ugh I guess it’s a windows problem then!
man sorry to have bothered you about it, but thanks a lot for your time, I really appreciate it!
Drag to reorder doesn’t work for me. I use “never combine” for the taskbar.
Nevermind, I reconfigured the wrong option… Sorry !
Haven’t had a chance to check out this version yet, but I intend to do so soon. Was wondering… does (or can) this version allow for the removing the horizontal line from the taskbar buttons that acts as an open window idicator? It looks really obnoxious when you keep the taksbar button labels visible (like I do). I haven’t found a way yet, to get rid of it.
No, there’s no such option currently.
Any plans to add it? π
No, not at this time. Feel free to post a suggestion on UserEcho, and I might look at it in the future.
Using the 7tt beta for Win 10, I downloaded it to stop thumbnail previews as my new logitech gaming mouse has been acting a bit wonky (other logitech models have about a year ago in Win 7), So I’m just wondering if your software can disable left click + drag upwards left from emulating a right click (on the taskbar)? Once I have that shut off I should be good to go. Thanks.
Yes, that’s possible with the
drag_towards_desktopadvanced option. See the help file for more details.If you already mentioned…
Advanced options βΊβΊ Mouse Button Control
Customization is very limited, only Ctrl Shift as Modifier keys.
Please look if you can add “drag towards desktop” as Mouse click event.
Does the beta version I have not have the advanced section?
nevermind, found it. Thanks
Any chance for an option to hide those stupid search and “switch window” buttons near the start button?
Windows allows you to hide these. There’s an option in the right click menu.
When the taskbar is aligned vertically (located on the left or right edge) and has been made wider, is there any way you could enable displaying multiple columns if there are more task buttons than available space instead of forcing a scrollbar? (In the same way has having a high enough taskbar on the bottom shows multiple rows of task buttons if required).
Is there any way that you could re-enable dragging the taskbar onto a secondary monitor in Win 10? (When in single taskbar mode, worked fine in Win 8.1 and older, Win 10 does not allow dragging the taskbar off the primary monitor anymore)
It’s not an easy feature to implement, so that’s unlikely. But feel free to vote for that feature on UserEcho, and I might look at it one day.
I’ll take a look when I have access to a multi-monitor environment with Windows 10. But even it that doesn’t work anymore, it’s probably possible to move the taskbar to another monitor by changing the primary monitor in screen settings. Therefore, and because it’s not a frequently needed feature, I don’t think that it deserves a fix in 7+ Taskbar Tweaker.
I have 4 monitors and the outer two are rotated by 90 degree.
I always used to have my taskbar on the left edge of the outer left monitor (among other reasons because having the vertically aligned taskbar on a vertically rotated monitor means there is enough space that all the task buttons fit without a scroll bar) and my primary monitor is the middle left monitor.
I can’t make the outer left monitor the primary display because then all programs that start in fullscreen mode try to fit onto the rotated monitor, which the large majority of programs (especially games) are completely unprepared to handle.
OK, I just tried it, and I’m able to drag a single taskbar to a different monitor on Windows 10.
As for primary monitors, I thought that dragging the main taskbar (the one with the notification area) to another monitor makes it the primary monitor, but I might have been wrong.
Thanks for that information.
On 3 different machines with multiple monitors that I upgraded to Win 10 the taskbar was forced onto the primary display after the upgrade and I couldn’t move it off that display anymore. Two people I know that had multi-monitor setups and upgraded to Win 10 also confirmed to me that they had the same problem, so I assumed this was a general Win 10 issue.
Based in your information I closed (or killed in taskman) all running applications except for explorer and was then able to drag the taskbar onto a secondary monitor.
After logging off/on, it was again forced onto the primary monitor, so I repeated the processes and locked the taskbar, and now it stays where it’s supposed to.
Obviously there must be some program that my 3 systems and the two people I talked to before have in common which is fine in win 8.1 and older, but which messes up the taskbar in win 10 (and no, it can’t be taskbar tweaker as I didn’t have that installed before yesterday).
So thanks again for confirming that you could move the taskbar to a secondary monitor fine under win 10.
Interesting… You could try killing the processes one by one and find out who is responsible for this behavior.
It was caused by Actual Window Manager (even though I’m not explicitly/knowingly using any taskbar related functionality of it, and it does list Windows 10 as supported OS). Filed a bug report with the developer.
Fixed in the latest beta.
Would it be possible to add a tweak in there to fix the god awful win10 taskbar and replace the small icons with the damn bars on them? I understand the win10 taskbar can’t be themed but idk about the icons. I wouldn’t mind if this program disabled it and replaced it entirely though if that is a possibility.
If you are working on this and would like a donation let me know.
God bless you Michael. Thank you so much!
Thanks heaps!!
Left click on combined item… cycle through windows should be the Windows default or an option built in!! I can’t survive without this feature. Thank you so much for restoring basic sanity.
Also, display seconds on tray clock is fantastic. Even though I changed my time format to HH:mm:ss – and the lock screen displays second – the tray clock doesn’t honor this. 0_o Microsoft.
It seems to be good so far here too… much needed in the OS itself but it seems microsoft doesn’t want you to make things work as they should… thankfully there is taskbar tweaker
I also agree that the seconds display option that was in the win-7 version of Taskbar Tweaker would be nice in the win 10 version too…
Hi Michael,
Just wanted to report a bug in the Win10 Beta. I frequently rearrange tasks on the taskbar. I’ve noticed that if I switch to a different Virtual Desktop, the order of my tasks is not preserved when I return to the original Desktop. FYI, my taskbar is on the LEFT side (just in case that helps you duplicate the bug).
Thanks again for 7+TT. I can’t live without it!
LenInSD
(Donator)
P.S. Hey everyone reading this comment: Please send Michael a few bucks, so he can continue to develop 7+TT!
Hi LenInSD,
First, thank you for the donation!
It seems like a Windows limitation, as the order isn’t preserved regardless of whether the tweaker is running. I might look at implementing an order restoring functionality one day, when I have lots of spare time.
Thanks Michael….That’s actually good news….I’d be willing to bet MS will fix the problem with an update, since it’s happening independently of 7+TT.
Ok, here we are almost a year after this comment was made and the problem still exists.
The order of icons on the taskbar is not preserved in windows 10 when switching between virtual desktops.
This is very annoying when using the machine for work! I can’t believe MS hasn’t fixed this issue already.
Michael, you mentioned you would look into preserving taskbar order in windows 10. Did you ever look into doing this?
p.s., i found this page searching for answers as to why taskbar order is changing when switching between virtual desktops in windows 10. I also use taskbar tweaker.
No. Also see my reply here:
http://rammichael.com/7-taskbar-tweaker-windows-10-the-first-major-update/comment-page-1#comment-6641
Love this. Having a narrow vertical taskbar is awesome, especially on devices with small widescreens.
Is there any chance of adding a options to move the start button to the bottom instead of the top, and to customise the clock? (I’d like hh:mm\ndd/MM)
Only bug I’ve found is the option to remove the start button actually removes the task view button. This is on Win10 x64
Can you tell me the version of the tweaker, and the build of Windows 10 you’re using?
4.5.10.8
I can’t reproduce it. Could you please specify the version of your explorer.exe file?
Go to C:\Windows, right click on explorer.exe, choose properties, and go to details. What do you see in the File version field?
10.0.10240.16405
It’s Win10 Pro x64 set to English (United Kingdom)
Does it on both machines.
Also did you see my other post about the taskbar width restriction? I really want to ditch the DisplayFusion taskbar as the stock one with your tweaks is so much better! Thank you for all your hard work.
I could reproduce it in the tablet mode.
Yes, I have replied here. Please try the latest beta.
The width issue is solved on the latest beta. Thank you, you are awesome :3
The start button issue is still present, happens to me not in tablet mode. It’s weird though. Somehow the search icon got enabled (I previously had it disabled) and now when I try to hide the start button, instead the search icon gets moved up and overlaid over the top of the start button, which still functions as a start button.
I don’t actually use this feature, so if it’s only affecting me, don’t worry about it π
I also have StartIsBack++ installed, which may have something to do with it.
That’s probably it. It would be great if you could temporarily disable it and see if the issue still occurs.
Sorry for the delay in testing.
Yes disabling startisback fixes it. It looks like 7tt correctly removes the button and moves all the icons up, then startisback plonks its start button on top of whatever is there.
Given that it seems unlikely that anyone using startisback will want to disable the start button. I doubt this is going to be a huge issue.
Great, thanks for checking it.
Yeah, 7+ Taskbar Tweaker can’t be made compatible with all third party utilities. Also, as far as I know, StartIsBack has an option of its own to hide the start button.
Oops, found another small bug.
The option to remove the width restriction on vertical taskbars only works on the taskbar on the primary monitor. The secondary taskbar is still stuck in its default wide state.
One of the options on empty space double click is “ctrl+win+tab”, what is it? It doesn’t seem to do anything and Google has no answers. Especially confused since ctrl+tab is already a hotkey, this must have conflicts.
Also what is ctrl+alt+tab?
I don’t know how it is in W10…
There are Alt+Tab & Win+Tab, you probably know how it worked in W7 & W8.
The Ctrl is added when you want to get this mode open, so that you don’t need to keep the buttons pressed.
That would be a cool feature. I’m on windows 7, and neither of these hotkeys work – either from the keyboard or from 7+TT. Pretty sure win+tab does nothing either.
Oh well.
The hotkey opens Flip 3D. You need to have Aero enabled for it to work.
Ah, that’d be why π
This beta is working very well here in Windows 10 Pro.
Many thanks to you for a well made program.
I have one problem left: I can’t read the text of the taskbar buttons because it is black text on an almost black background. I want to keep the same dark background but make the text white.
Is there any way that can be done, such as a registry tweak?
Or could you add it as an option in 7TT please?
Not sure if it will work, but if you download WinAero Tweaker and look for the option “Enable Aero Lite Theme” there’s an option to have it with white text. In theory this should also affect the taskbar. As an added bonus you also get coloured titlebars back!
I have a potential bug report for Windows 8.1 using this beta release. Minimising/restoring windows using the scroll wheel (over both taskbar buttons and previews) seems to be broken.
Good catch, thanks!
Should be fixed in v4.5.10.10, please try it.
hi! I’m using latest beta on Windows 10 Home x64. two things regarding scrolling over the taskbar:
when adjusting the volume while scrolling, could the program display the Windows 8/Windows 10 volume slider? I mean the one you get when using keyboard hotkeys to adjust volume. the one with rectangle slider and number value.
would it be possible to have scrolling over the taskbar to adjust volume AND scrolling over the icon to minimize/restore the window at the same time without conflict? it was working fine on Windows 7 IIRC, but now when I’m scrolling over the icon, both features activate at the same time.
Hi!
With the release of Windows 10, there are now three volume scrolling interfaces: one, two, three.
For the scrolling option, the tweaker uses the first interface. It’s the first interface that existed in Windows since Windows 7, and I spent a considerable amount of time to tweak little things to make it work well (e.g. to implement auto-hiding after a short amount of time of no scrolling).
Currently, I don’t plan to change the tweaker to work with a different interface. I might look at it in the future.
Can you tell me how to reproduce the issue?
thanks for the reply. to reproduce the issue, check those options:
Minimize/restore when mouse is over: Taskbar buttons
Control volume when mouse is over: The taskbar
and try scrolling over a taskbar button to restore the window.
I just noticed it’s now working properly for me, but when I tried it yesterday, the scrolling restored the window and turned volume up at the same time. weird.
also, regarding your answer about scrolling interfaces – I understand where are you coming from. I just thought method 2 or 3 matches better the overall Windows 10 looks, but didn’t know the interfaces required lots of tweaking by you. it’s fine as it is, keep being awesome π
Upon launching I get multiple errors (1004 and 5) that it cannot load library.
I have the latest release of insider preview (10525). I don’t know if there’s a relation with that.
I just upgraded to the build 10525 and got the same errors instantly after first boot. The newest Ξ² worked nicely before the upgrade on build 10240.
I wonder if these newer insider builds will be supported at all?
Hi, because of some reasons I’m forced to update my 7 to 10. I’m glad it’s working perfectly in 10, thanks!
I have a small suggestion, can you make an option to remove the underline of the taskbar item?
Installed beta on W10 Pro. After setting w10_large_icons, caused Explorer crash loop. Had to nuke 7TT process to stop the crash cycle.
Question: My Windows 10 laptop has decided to not display “Unpin from taskbar” when you right-click on the taskbar icon. I don’t suppose you could do something with the pin/unpin feature that keep me from having to do deep, dark magic that worries me to even think about?
Hi,
I’ve just updated to the latest W10 insider previewer and 7+ is failing to load with a Could not load library (107) error message.
7+ Version – 5.1.0.10 (beta)
Explorer version – 10.0.14388.0
Thanks,
Dave
Insider builds are not supported at this time.
Could you please release an update that would be compatible with Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.14393] (Anniversary Update released yesterday)?
Thank you.
Support for Windows 10 Anniversary Update is being worked on.
Currently, there’s an alpha version which partially works.
See the following blog post for more details:
http://rammichael.com/7-taskbar-tweaker-for-windows-10-anniversary-update-early-alpha-version